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 Post subject: Tea Party Speaker Wants Voter Literacy Test Reinstated
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:16 pm 
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Is the a conscious attempt at racism?

Tea Party opening speaker suggests law that kept blacks be kept from voting be reinstated

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/tea-party-o ... ks-voting/

The opening night speaker at the Tea Party convention suggested a return to a "literacy test" to protect America from presidents like Obama -- a segregation-era method employed by southern US states to keep blacks from voting.

In his speech Thursday to attendees, former Republican congressman Tom Tancredo invoked the loaded pre-civil rights era buzzword, saying that President Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."

Southern states used literacy tests as part of an effort to deny suffrage to African American voters prior to Johnson-era civil rights laws.

"Prior to passage of the federal Voting Rights Act in 1965, Southern (and some Western) states maintained elaborate voter registration procedures whose primary purpose was to deny the vote to those who were not white," a website for civil rights veterans explains. "In the South, this process was often called the 'literacy test.' In fact, it was much more than a simple test, it was an entire complex system devoted to denying African-Americans (and in some regions, Latinos) the right to vote."


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You starting this thread shows your racism.


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The audience applause at his suggestions is appalling.



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Tom Tancredo in no way represents the thinking of conservative Americans. However, I believe his remarks were pointed at undocumented immigrants. At this point in American history our leaders continue to grossly ignore laws set forth to control immigration and the costs to the taxpayers.

Until our government shuts down our borders and deals with companies that hire undocumented workers, voting corruption will continue with the support of organizations like ACORN. I doubt you'll see Tancredo on the podium of any national Tea Party gathering in the future.

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Tom Tancredo in no way represents the thinking of conservative Americans. However, I believe his remarks were pointed at undocumented immigrants. At this point in American history our leaders continue to grossly ignore laws set forth to control immigration and the costs to the taxpayers.

Until our government shuts down our borders and deals with companies that hire undocumented workers, voting corruption will continue with the support of organizations like ACORN. I doubt you'll see Tancredo on the podium of any national Tea Party gathering in the future.


AND not just from one country. EVERYWHERE!


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Will this also rule Palin out?

EXCLUSIVE: Palin's Tea Party Crib Notes

Closer inspection of a photo of Sarah Palin, during a speech in which she mocked President Obama for his use of a teleprompter, reveals several notes written on her left hand. The words "Energy", "Tax" and "Lift American Spirits" are clearly visible. There's also what appears to read as "Budget cuts" with the word Budget crossed out.
Final Thoughts:

Just to be clear: The notes most likely weren't for her speech, for which she used prepared remarks, but for the Q&A session that followed, during which she glanced at the hand in question.

But in my opinion that's even worse.

There were no specifics on there, just general concepts and things she supports.

The takeaway is that this presidential contender apparently can't remember her supposed core principles and needs a cheat-sheet when simply asked about her beliefs.

To quote Charlie Brown:

Good grief.

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SoMelo wrote:
Will this also rule Palin out?

EXCLUSIVE: Palin's Tea Party Crib Notes

Closer inspection of a photo of Sarah Palin, during a speech in which she mocked President Obama for his use of a teleprompter, reveals several notes written on her left hand. The words "Energy", "Tax" and "Lift American Spirits" are clearly visible. There's also what appears to read as "Budget cuts" with the word Budget crossed out.
Final Thoughts:

Just to be clear: The notes most likely weren't for her speech, for which she used prepared remarks, but for the Q&A session that followed, during which she glanced at the hand in question.

But in my opinion that's even worse.

There were no specifics on there, just general concepts and things she supports.

The takeaway is that this presidential contender apparently can't remember her supposed core principles and needs a cheat-sheet when simply asked about her beliefs.

To quote Charlie Brown:

Good grief.

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I also will quote Charlie Brown; Good Grief. Much ado about absolutely nothing.

BTW, Can you imagine the uproar if Bush would not have known how to pronounce corpsmen?


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SoMelo wrote:
Will this also rule Palin out?
No more than Obama's world famous readings from his teleprompter... CORPSMAN, CORPSMAN, CORPSMAN. :oops:

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I love it. The lower their Prez's ratings drop, the longer the fangs come out. Go Sarah!


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Red wrote:
I love it. The lower their Prez's ratings drop, the longer the fangs come out. Go Sarah!


So Red, are you a blue or a green?

http://lesswrong.com/lw/mg/the_twoparty_swindle/

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So Red, are you a blue or a green?

http://lesswrong.com/lw/mg/the_twoparty_swindle/


Let me look it over. Get back to you.


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I doubt you'll see Tancredo on the podium of any national Tea Party gathering in the future.

Of course you won't. Literacy tests would have kept half of the people in attendance from voting.

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Of course you won't. Literacy tests would have kept half of the people in attendance from voting.
Ridiculous and unfounded statement. I would say that Sarah Palin's writing and reading on her hand displayed much more English literacy than President Obama's triple-gaffe with the written word "corpsman." C'mon man, you voted for him and you seem to be literate to me.

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I agree, Tancredo's idea was dumb and he opened himself up to ridicule (if not ostracization) by voicing it ...

But seriously, folks: Turning this dumb thread into a hate-thread about Sarah Palin? SURELY there is someone more scary you can hate.

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BY the way, and getting back to what Paul thinks is the topic of the thread, The Raw Story (from who's pages the opening article was plucked) isn't being exactly honest in their reporting.

Note in their write up, the insertion of one tiny little comma that changes the meaning of Tancredo's words. Here: I'll reprint it for those unwilling to even go to that extent:
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Tom Tancredo invoked the loaded pre-civil rights era buzzword, saying that President Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."

By putting that comma between "civics" and "literacy," the raw story made this into the "evidence" they needed to write their hate piece about Tom Tancredo (who doesn't need such constructs to garner the disdain for all that he really DOES do).

In fact, what Tom Tancredo really said was:
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“"Because we don't have a civics literacy test to vote, people who couldn't even spell vote, or say it in English, put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House named Barack Hussein Obama."


He was lamenting the fact that people who don't understand what socialism is (nevermind recognize a socialist idealogue) put Barack Obama into the white house. THAT idea is dumb enough but to re-write his comments to make them into a racist statement is beneath contempt for an alleged journalist.

Tancredo is well known for his advocacy of a CIVICS test for voters (all voters) and even sent a copy of what he recommended to the Colorado House Speaker, Terence Carroll. Carroll had accused Tancredo of racism because his statement about a civics test was aimed at Obama (NOT because it was advocating a literacy test, mind you) so Tancredo sent Carroll a 100 question civics test as representative of what he was advocating. "Simliar to the exam new citizens take" is how he described it.

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I actually appreciate the fact the Tea Party does not hide its ideology. Are Palin, Tancerdo and the other birther guy who spoke at the convention going to attract centrist voters? I hope they keep it up.


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I actually appreciate the fact the Tea Party does not hide its ideology. Are Palin, Tancerdo and the other birther guy who spoke at the convention going to attract centrist voters? I hope they keep it up.


I'm pretty sure that is not their intent.

I am, however, mindful of the obvious fact that it was "centrist voters" in Massachusetts who voted Scott Brown into office. You remember Scott? He's the one who openly associated himself with the Tea Party.

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GOODave wrote:

I'm pretty sure that is not their intent.

I am, however, mindful of the obvious fact that it was "centrist voters" in Massachusetts who voted Scott Brown into office. You remember Scott? He's the one who openly associated himself with the Tea Party.


State Sen. Scott Brown told reporters in Massachusetts today he was "unfamiliar" with the "Tea Party movement," despite earning the endorsement from one of the groups who is raising money for his campaign to win the U.S. Senate seat Tuesday.

According to the Boston Globe, Brown called himself a "Scott Brown Republican" that shouldn't be labeled conservative, liberal or moderate.


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blacklib wrote:

State Sen. Scott Brown told reporters in Massachusetts today he was "unfamiliar" with the "Tea Party movement," despite earning the endorsement from one of the groups who is raising money for his campaign to win the U.S. Senate seat Tuesday.

According to the Boston Globe, Brown called himself a "Scott Brown Republican" that shouldn't be labeled conservative, liberal or moderate.



Label anybody anything you want (labeling in the norm for democrats), the fact is your side is losing. The slime that surrounds obama is dirtying up the waters. Doesn't matter what Brown says, it only matters what he does. He said, "elect me and I will kill this healthcare reform". If you don't think the tea party movement had anything to do with Scott Brown's win, you are sorely mis-informed, so keep living in your fantasy world. Thank God for the tea party movement as the REAL movement is for REDUCING THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT! BTW, a government that dictates which toilet to install is a $hitty one.

BTW BTW, Mr "I love big government Liberal", read up in the food the government feeds kids on the school Free lunch program! The chicken they feed kids in school is not even fit enough for Kentucky Fried Chicken!


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Label anybody anything you want (labeling in the norm for democrats), the fact is your side is losing. The slime that surrounds obama is dirtying up the waters.


I take it you're a democrat?

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Doesn't matter what Brown says, it only matters what he does. He said, "elect me and I will kill this healthcare reform".


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I take it you're a democrat?


Nope! Okay I tend to label.


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Doesn't matter what Brown says, it only matters what he does. He said, "elect me and I will kill this healthcare reform".


And????????????????????????


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SoMelo wrote:
Will this also rule Palin out?

EXCLUSIVE: Palin's Tea Party Crib Notes

Closer inspection of a photo of Sarah Palin, during a speech in which she mocked President Obama for his use of a teleprompter, reveals several notes written on her left hand. The words "Energy", "Tax" and "Lift American Spirits" are clearly visible. There's also what appears to read as "Budget cuts" with the word Budget crossed out.
Final Thoughts:

Just to be clear: The notes most likely weren't for her speech, for which she used prepared remarks, but for the Q&A session that followed, during which she glanced at the hand in question.

But in my opinion that's even worse.

There were no specifics on there, just general concepts and things she supports.

The takeaway is that this presidential contender apparently can't remember her supposed core principles and needs a cheat-sheet when simply asked about her beliefs.

To quote Charlie Brown:

Good grief.

-Stefan

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