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Twitter hack allows the Dolphins to get a plum cheaply

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Twitter hack allows the Dolphins to get a plum cheaply

Postby Parrotpaul » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:25 am

Unreal....the Dolphins pick up a real talent and get a deal because of a Twitter hack. Nasty people doing nasty things to youngsters really isn't cool, but as I always told my students...if there is something you don't want anyone else to see, don't commit it to paper. That said...I did enjoy Goodell getting boos all night.

CHICAGO -- The Internet -- one of the few things bigger than the NFL -- hijacked the NFL Draft on Thursday night, turning a celebration of the game into a real-time soap opera involving drug use, accusations of pay-for-play shenanigans, the freefall of the player involved and one bizarre press conference.

Note to everyone, everywhere, particularly Laremy Tunsil: There are no secrets. Especially if you film them. Especially with the Internet out there, to say nothing of some viciously awful people, waiting to prove the point.

Tunsil learned the hard way in as surprising a scene as you can imagine, and it turned the night into a strange mix of sympathy, surrealism, weirdness and, for the Miami Dolphins, opportunity.

It began when Tunsil's Twitter handle -- hijacked, we later learned -- posted photos of the soon-to-be-drafted tackle hitting a bong. In a gas mask.

No, seriously.


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Postby crayegg » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:23 am

Hitting a bong... SHOCKING I say, absolutely SHOCKING!!! Are the Dolphins crazy taking this dangerous, drug addled criminal??? <That is sarcasm, for the brain-dead among us.>

This country will be much better off when we finally legalize MJ and can get past this ridiculous crapola.

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Postby Fordama » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:49 am

They're getting a guy stupid enough to post that stuff in this day and age.

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Postby Parrotpaul » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:51 am

And South Beach is right on his doorstep....time will tell.
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Postby crayegg » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:51 am

I don't think he posted it, he was hacked.

Still ridiculous, IMO.

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Postby Parrotpaul » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:54 am

It's like a comedy of errors all around. As Ford said...dumb move with today's technology. That will always be the asterisk on his pro biographies. Dolphins needed something...they're on life support. Hopefully the kid has since become a better decision maker.
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Postby Parrotpaul » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:31 am

Where do all these poor and struggling college athletes get the money to drape themselves with bling? Tunsil had about a pound of gold around his neck and a couple carats of diamonds in his ears.
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Postby Parrotpaul » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:03 am

This story gets murkier and murkier...Tunsil accepted money from Ole Miss coaches. I wonder if bling was factored into some of the gifts?

CHICAGO — An anonymous hacker used the night of the NFL draft to try to take down Laremy Tunsil and the Ole Miss football program.

Moments before the draft began a video of Tunsil smoking out of a bong fashioned out of a gas mask was posted onto his Twitter account. When it had done its damage, moving Tunsil out of the top 10 entirely and to the Miami Dolphins on No. 13, the hacker started on Tunsil’s Instagram account.

There they posted screenshots of alleged text messages between Tunsil and John Miller, assistant athletic director for football operations, in which Tunsil asks for money to pay rent and also for his mother's $305 electric and water bill. In reference to the former, Miller makes a reference to "Barney." Barner Farrar is Ole Miss' assistant athletic director for high school and junior colleges.

“I made a mistake,” Tunsil said in a press conference. “That happened.”

Pressed if that meant he had taken money from a coach, Tunsil said, ‘I’d have to say yeah.’

ESPN's Joe Schad tweeted Friday morning that Farrar said he had not given Tunsil any money and that Tunsil had not asked Farrar for any money. Attempts to independently confirm the news with Farrar were unsuccessful.

This is potentially devastating news to Ole Miss, which is already in the midst of an investigation process with the NCAA. A notice of allegations (which included violations that led to Tunsil serving a long suspension during the 2015 season) was delivered to Ole Miss in January. A third party requested a 30-day extension earlier this month.While Tunsil was being asked if he had met with the NCAA, his agent Jimmy Sexton's assistant stopped the press conference and escorted Tunsil to a room down the hall before closing the door.
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Postby Luca » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:49 pm

It's not simply that he smoked marijuana, creyegg. I think most general managers are aware that the majority of college kids have smoked marijuana at one time or another. There's a little more to it than that.

The fact that he got caught is one red flag. Just like it's one thing to have a few drinks as a college kid, it's another to be dumb enough to allow yourself to get photographed falling over drunk in a bar or to get a DUI. Same concept - drinking - but he wasn't smart enough to exercise judgment. These guys know that they're going to be in the public eye and that incidents like this if caught on camera are eventually going to surface, potentially endangering your program and your career. You should be smart enough to know that, and if you're not it's a flake alert.

There are a lot of flaky college kids and these professional teams are investing millions of dollars in first round draft choices. Having yourself photographed inhaling marijuana through a gas mask makes a general manager with his job on the line wonder whether there is a chance he is one of those unsuspected flakes, given the carelessness.

You can' t find out everything about these kids before you draft them. Nobody detected what flakes Johnny Manziel, JaMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf were before drafting them and it badly damaged those teams. There's not that much difference between a Tunsil and a few other offensive tackles and the players chosen ahead of him. There's not much that separates these guys and if one shows an indication that he may be a flake teams are not going to take that chance. Look at Myles Jack. Just a suggestion that he might have a knee problem took him from the top five choice into the second round.

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Postby Omar Bongo » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:02 pm

dumb enough to allow yourself to get photographed

With cell phones and security cameras and drones and spy satellites it's impossible to prevent yourself being photographed or videotaped virtually every second after you walk out your front door. With the gotcha society we live in the key is to act like an emotionless automaton in public and hope nothing you do or say costs you your job, your reputation or your life savings until you get back home and close the door behind you...and then only if you don't forget to close all the curtains, confiscate the cellphones of all your family members and guests and tape over the camera lens on your PC
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Postby Luca » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:31 pm

And yet no one else in the first few rounds got himself outted like that.

I feel sorry for the kid. This has cost him millions, I would imagine. But I also don't blame the general managers who took one look at that photograph and decided – flimsy though the evidence may be – that this was one chance they didn't need to take. Part of the problem being, as was pointed out by a few commentators, that there wasn't enough time to investigate the situation and see if this was an indication of a flake or simply an isolated episode.........................Luca

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Postby Omar Bongo » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:03 pm

And yet no one else in the first few rounds got himself outted like that

1) So what? Are the rest of them are geniuses, or just lucky?

2) And he "got himself" outted? Really? You're aware that he didn't take the photo and he didn't post it on the web...someone else did that to him.

Should he have been more careful? Yes, like most college kids should be more careful...
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Postby Luca » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:11 pm

1). Some luck, and they were more careful.

2). Really. It's a little stupid when you're a high profile athlete these days to pose for a picture like that.............Luca

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Postby John Q. Public » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:26 pm

I'm going to go with "just one more dumb college kid," just like all those graduates who now wish they could delete their Facebook profiles and that they'd never Instagrammed those pictures from Daytona Beach.
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Postby Omar Bongo » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:02 am

1) You're assuming he posed for it

2) Looking at the photo I'm guessing that something just may have been compromising his better judgement at that moment :wink:
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Postby Parrotpaul » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:17 am

1) So what? Are the rest of them are geniuses, or just lucky?

No, he has been snakebit by circumstance, poor decision making, and someone more than willing to want to harm the kid's future, and he really isn't just another college kid.

There is probably no one out there trying to sabotage the other's careers, and unless they catch the perp, what other harms can he do? He's already cost the kid 10-13 million (ESPN figures) in contract money, the Miami coach...who is on not so solid ground in Miami...has one more headache to worry about; South beach beckons, and the kid will have lots of "friends" and lots of money.
Yep, pro athletes and others smoke weed, but the NFL rules say you can't do that or you will be punished. Would it be off base to say he will probably be frequently peeing in cups in the next year or so?

Ummm....none of the other violations...taking money, airplane tickets, hotel rooms, rental cars cross your radar? You kind of frame Brady as a criminal for maybe conspiring to let a little air out of a football, and you get in back of an admitted offender who broke rules, put Ole Miss into further trouble with the NCAA, and probably will have gotten an AD fired. Is it also a bad assumption that the $300 he asked the AD for so he could pay his mom's water and light bill is a little less than believable? A bag of weed costs about that much these days...I'm inclined to go with the latter. He messed with someone, and that someone got a piece of revenge Friday night...ya think?

It doesn't matter whether or not he posed for the picture; it's out there and it has been a major topic of conversation...this matter will follow him to the grave...the media will see to that. And what about that person who is intent on ruining the kid's career...so far he has been successful. $10-13 million down the tubes, and a big question mark about the kid's decision making and character. Time will tell. TV commentators will ensure every game he plays on TV for at least the first year will have mention of his pre-draft behavior.
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Postby Omar Bongo » Sun May 01, 2016 11:15 pm

You kind of frame Brady as a criminal for maybe conspiring to let a little air out of a football

No I don't. Brady showed a complete lack of character by violating a league rule and putting the integrity of the NFL in question in one of the biggest games of the year and then lying to investigators about it and destroying evidence. But he was at least sly enough to keep himself from getting criminally prosecuted for those acts, which is something for his fans to be proud of, I'm sure.

and you get in back of an admitted offender who broke rules

What does "get in back of" mean? What rules did he break?

this matter will follow him to the grave

Oh please... that sounds like a line at the end of Reefer Madness :lol:
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Postby Parrotpaul » Mon May 02, 2016 7:30 am


What rules did he break?


I'll agree to disagree, for the most part, but it is expressly against NCAA rules to take money, goods, and/or services from anyone even coaches. He did those things...no? I wish the kid the best, but there are certainly red flags going up. Time will tell.
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Postby MDDad » Mon May 02, 2016 8:09 am

If taking "money, goods, and/or services from anyone even coaches" were truly a disqualifier, there would be no college sports.

And the NFL draft would be a laugh-riot. They'd be drafting 130-pound Asian kids from M.I.T. by the second round.

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Postby Parrotpaul » Mon May 02, 2016 8:25 am

I understand that, MDDAD, but when you get caught breaking NCAA rules...the sending school gets investigated.

Your cynicism is noted....this board is no place to post anything about pro-sports. The threads rarely get any traction. Puzzles me.
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