John Q. Public wrote:And we're back to being a Boring Bastion of Conservatism. No offense to the Conservatives, but the place gets really dull when we lose a dissenting voice.
Once upon a time, Paul and I disagreed on almost everything ... but we kept it civil.
SLK230 and I disagree on everything "religion" and are still respectful of each other.
Fordama and I both disagree AND get acrimonious at each other, yet still maintain a semblance of decorum.
I don't think we're ever in danger of becoming a boring bastion of conservatism (or a boring bastion of liberal zeal, either, for that matter). People choose where they go and what they do when they get there. ThomasDad moved and, so, no longer had much of an interest in Orange County. Foghorn had an interest early on but hasn't been around much (though I agree that both of them added immeasurably to this community, even though we seldom agreed).
I understand your angst at people leaving.
But there is nothing you can do about it from "their choice" perspective. You can control this environment to an extent, but people will still get upset at your choices: It's almost unavoidable.
Just keep doing what you're doing. Ebb and flow ... it all equals out eventually.
John Q. Public wrote:I've given a number of warnings lately and the question I'm asked most often is, "How come such-and-such can say it and I can't?" The answer in almost all of the cases is, "Because I didn't see such-and-such's post."
I've got to say, John, this kind of statement has always made me uncomfortable.
I've got a very good friend who works with Campus Crusade for Christ. I'm on his mailing list and every once in a great while, he has to drum up more support because his family situation changed, or because his core supporters have dropped off or whatever. So he sends out a newsletter that I KNOW with surety makes him uncomfortable: Basically, he's asking for money and he doesn't like that part of his role.
I tell him to not even try to excuse it: He needs money to keep doing what he's doing and that newsletter is one of the tools at his disposal to accomplish that goal. He no more has to come to [us] with hat in hand than he has to perform some magic tricks in order to get our support. He is aligned with God and that, alone, should be sufficient reason for us to decide whether or not to support him. Of course, he treats my admonishment as I expect you will treat it:
You don't owe anyone an explanation for anything. Those of us who, ahem, infrequently misbehave in here KNOW what we're doing. Most of us don't get away with much before you're telling us about it but IF
we do get away with it, O.K., we got away with it. Next time we won't be so lucky ... or maybe the time after that. This is your forum and one that you've made available to the rest of us, MOST of whom would be without any place in OC once MYOC died.
If you want to enforce the rules haphazardly, so what? If you want to enforce the rules rigidly, so what? If you want to throw out the rules or engage a lot of new rules (rigid or haphazard), so what? If we choose to come in here, we implicitly choose to go along with how ever you decide to run the place. If it gets too haphazard, we get to leave ... if it becomes too rigid, we get to leave.
When I think you're being unfair, I send you a PM and you get to decide what, if anything, to do about it.
In light of what is going on all over the world (most of which we disagree over), I honestly cannot fathom why anyone would bother you with whining about "...he called me a name..." or "HE TOUCHED ME..." crap.
Anyway, do with it what you will. That's all I wanted to say... for now.