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Trump's Ties

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Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:39 am

Does anyone else get a feeling that Trump has investments in the companies he bashes?

Today it was The Apprentice (Swarzenegger), of which he's the executive producer(?). CNN, New York Times and other media outlets are always on his butcher block. He has to know that every time he does his public bashing the company profits.
Is he just completely stupid and immature or the biggest con ever played on America? My gut says the latter.



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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:44 am

Damn near impossible for a multi-national businessman NOT to have some sort of ties out there. I think the right made a lot of the Clinton Foundation too. There may have been improprieties with the CF, but as a whole, it was just yet another political machination to rile up most people who won't take the time to thoroughly investigate the stuff.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:54 am

Then he must really be broke. Him refusing to show his taxes of course would clear speculation but I doubt that will happen, which solidifies my speculation even more.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:00 pm

You're sounding like a birther there Mutt.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:26 pm

Ok, then he's "completely stupid and immature", and all the other adjectives. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and a compliment by calling he a con.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Another bit from Robert Reich's page ..

Trump has a 60-year lease with the General Services Administration for the property that’s now the Trump International Hotel. The contract between the GSA and Trump clearly and unambiguously states that no elected federal official “shall be admitted to any share or part of this lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom.” That clause was put into the contract to prevent corruption and self-dealing by government officials.
For the past 12 days, Trump has been raking in 87 percent of the hotel’s profits. His children are splitting the rest.
The GSA is obligated to cancel the lease, or require it be sold to another hotel operator. But the GSA hasn’t taken any action. Its head is now a Trump appointee named Tim Horne, who reports to Trump.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:46 pm

And all the birthers "knew" he was born in Kenya because he wouldn't submit his birth cert too. Keep chasing your tail if you must.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:13 pm

Was that a dig at my dog picture? :lol:

The birther thing was pure racism, this isn't and based in actualities.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Gotta have a little humor now and then.

I'm missing the racism thing though. Was the idea behind it to somehow prove the white lady wasn't his mother? How is asserting someone isn't qualified to be potus because he was born in Kenya a racial issue?

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:46 pm

Because he was born here. Even once he proved it he was still disbelieved. No other candidate for president was ridiculed and forced to show his birth certificate, until our fist black president.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby sbayhills » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:07 pm

Most arguments here end up with someone being called a racist.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Parrotpaul » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:29 pm

No they don't.
"I think I may say that of all the men we meet with, nine parts of ten are what they are, good or evil, useful or not, by their education." John Locke

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby sbayhills » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:34 pm

It just happened in the Free Speech thread. This one is still early.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Parrotpaul » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:36 pm

You presume too much.
"I think I may say that of all the men we meet with, nine parts of ten are what they are, good or evil, useful or not, by their education." John Locke

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Wabash » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:55 pm

I would like to know if our president has the types of conflicts or obligations his tax returns would show. Couple that with his refusal to prove his business interests are in a blind trust.

A facist ruler has no problem enriching himself using their office. Trump seems to fit that profile at this point in time.

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I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

We only started hearing about fake news when we elected a fake president.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:00 pm

ShiftyMutt wrote:Because he was born here. Even once he proved it he was still disbelieved. No other candidate for president was ridiculed and forced to show his birth certificate, until our fist black president.


Now I get the whole racist argument. Because he was the first black president, every criticism of him is by definition racist?

The guy's name was Barrack Hussein Obama, and his dad was born in Kenya. Not exactly Clinton, Bush, Carter or Ford...all of which are names used by blacks. Think it might have been more of muslim thing than race?

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:07 pm

Being against Muslims isn't racist?

I competely expect people to disagree with his politics, it's normal.

We hardly heard a word on Ted Cruz' citizenship, well, except from Trump of course.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:20 pm

Last I checked, Muslim is a religion. I can't imagine why there might be anti-muslim sentiment.

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby ShiftyMutt » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:30 pm

Islam is the religion.
I seriously doubt that if Obama was white he would have been doubted and forced to show his birth certificate. Yet, Dr. Oz is "America's doctor".

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Re: Trump's Ties

Postby Bick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:09 pm

We're splitting hairs Mutt. A Muslim is one who practices islam.

You really think anyone would've asked for his birth cert if his last name was Dunham or Jackson?

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