China Tests Trump-and Trump Answers.

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China Tests Trump-and Trump Answers.

Postby Professor Fate » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:08 pm

China claims most of the South China Sea as its own territorial waters, despite losing in the UN Court in the Hague last year. They have been building up artificial islands to try to extend their territorial reach, and have been building runways and allegedly missile sites on them. Their rejected "nine dash line" shows what they are claiming despite opposition claims from the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei.Image

China has had a show of force in the area by sailing their only aircraft carrier into the area recently. Also, on February 10, U.S. and Chinese military planes had what the Pentagon describes as "an unsafe close encounter" near Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea. A war of words ensued.

The Trump administration answered by sailing their own aircraft carrier group through the South China Sea, led by the USS Vinson. Also three attack submarines have been deployed to the Western Pacific, and at least one of them entered the South China Sea.

Other deployments had occurred under the Obama administration, some to counter N Korea, but also intended for China to take notice. These include a permanent bomber presence in Guam for the first time in decades, and stationing advanced missile systems in S Korea and Japan.

Showing that our resolve to protect our interests hasn't changed under President Trump, F22s have been sent to Australia for joint exercises, and F 35s to Okinawa, Japan.

As if that wasn't clear enough, the US just had a Trident II ballistic missile test, firing a four missile salvo from a submarine off the California coast 4,200 miles into the mid-Pacific. :shock:

According to this NBC story, "On Tuesday, the Chinese Foreign Ministry acknowledged the USS Vinson's patrol.

"China always respects the freedom of navigation and overflight of all countries in the South China Sea in accordance with international law," said Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us- ... li=BBnbcA1



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Postby Omar Bongo » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:47 pm

Talk about fake news...we've been doing that for decades. It was just an attempt to save face after quickly caving on Tillerson's inexplicable statement about using force to prevent China from accessing the islands it has built. Just some chest thumping that changes nothing...vintage Trump
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Postby MDDad » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:54 pm

Omar Bongo wrote:...vintage Trump

With only 35 days in office, I don't think anything can be vintage Trump yet.

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Postby Omar Bongo » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:58 pm

Well, think again...The Art of the Deal was published in 1987
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Postby Tommy Tar » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:34 pm

Trump told China. You want to sell us stuff? Take out the nut job in north korea and we will talk. Then Trump told saudi arabia. You want to sell oil? Take out iran.

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Re: China Tests Trump-and Trump Answers.

Postby Omar Bongo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:38 pm

More empty bluster...the U.S. trade deficit with China was $347 billion in 2016. China is holding $1.05 trillion in U.S. Treasury bills, notes, and bonds. Do the math :-"
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Postby Professor Fate » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:46 pm

Kind of depends on how you look at it, doesn't it? Who has the most to lose...the one with the trade deficit, or the one with the trade surplus? :-"

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Postby Omar Bongo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:41 pm

The one who is $1 trillion in debt to the other
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Re: China Tests Trump-and Trump Answers.

Postby Professor Fate » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:08 pm

If things go south, they might never get that $1 trillion.

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Postby Omar Bongo » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:44 am

And unlike us they would still have an economy
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Postby Fordama » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:30 pm

Professor Fate wrote:If things go south, they might never get that $1 trillion.



Yeah, that'd be great for our credit rating. Good thinking.
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Postby not4u13 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:30 am

Despite the show of military force, China has the upper hand economically, which is what really matters.

While the Chinese economy would suffer if there was no more trade with the US, ours would suffer more and all China would have to do is call our debt. They hold the "trump" card, not us.
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Postby Fordama » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:54 am

Compounding that economic situation, Trump is working very hard to drive Mexico and Central America into trade partnerships with China.
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Re: China Tests Trump-and Trump Answers.

Postby Omar Bongo » Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:15 pm

Don't you guys get it? All you've got on your side are facts and logic while the Trumpets have an aircraft carrier...you lose. Go 'Merica!!!
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