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The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

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The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby Professor Fate » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:07 pm

The ACLU lawsuit against the now expired first "travel ban" has been dismissed unanimously by the US Supreme Court. One of the liberal judges, Sonia Sotomayor, said she would not have wiped out the appeals court ruling.

The Trump administration has wanted the case dismissed, but the challengers had wanted the Court to rule on the cases, in the hope that if the decision went their way, that they could then use it as a precedent.

The 2nd so-called travel ban has not been addressed yet, because the part relating to a refugee ban has not expired yet. That case could yet be dismissed once the refugee ban expires on Oct. 24, meaning the court remains unlikely to issue a final ruling on whether the ban was lawful.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-top ... li=BBnb7Kz


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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby Fordama » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:54 am

Yes, the case was dismissed because the ban had expired, so the entire point became moot.
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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby MDDad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:35 am

I'll admit I've done nothing to stay current on this whole "travel ban" issue, so I'm confused. I thought the original travel ban was a 120-day moratorium on travel from six or seven countries until an "extreme vetting" process could be implemented. It's now been 284 days, so isn't that new process in place? If it is, why do we need another travel ban? If it isn't, why the hell isn't it?

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:15 am

Yes, the one the Court dismissed the case on had expired so there was nothing to rule on. The New and Improved Temporary Travel Ban took Iraq off the list and substituted Chad. Of course we've never had any terrorists who came from Chad and Chad has been invaluable to us in fighting Boko Haram in Nigeria, but we put it on there anyway. I think it has something to do with Chadians' IQs.
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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby MDDad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:17 am

My question remains: Has the new and improved extreme vetting process been implemented or not?

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:37 am

In some countries. It's a paperwork thing, basically. Some of the countries still on the list don't have processes to keep birth-to-death records on all of their people.
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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby MDDad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:45 am

So we set an arbitrary 120-day limit for Stone Age countries to implement processes they couldn't possibly do?

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:52 am

Pretty much. That was the argument with Chad.
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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby MDDad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:53 am

Well, damn, that sounds pretty stupid to me.

So if Chadians try to come to America and instead get stranded at the airport, do we call them Hanging Chads?

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby Professor Fate » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:32 pm

MDDad wrote:It's now been 284 days, so isn't that new process in place? If it is, why do we need another travel ban? If it isn't, why the hell isn't it?

I think what you may be missing is that the 120 day thing was a catch all until we could determine what needed to be fixed, and what didn't; what countries were willing to make changes to fix things, and what countries couldn't or wouldn't. Once all that could be determined, a more precisely targeted plan of action could be implemented. And that is the so-called travel ban 3.0.
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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby MDDad » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:52 pm

Sounds like travel bans are like iPhones or Samsung Galaxy's. Will we get a new and improved version every six to 12 months?

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby Omar Bongo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:12 pm

Sounds like travel bans are like iPhones or Samsung Galaxy's

Probably because they both experienced meltdowns and were recalled...

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Re: The Supreme Court Dismisses First Travel Ban Challenge.

Postby Fordama » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:18 am

Maybe when Trump was in prep school he had a bad experience with a boy named Chad?
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