Long Beach poly coach resigns

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Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby insidetrinity » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:45 pm

Antonio pierce resigned today from poly to pursue college and nfl oppurtunities. Will be interesting to see who gets it



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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby polyrules » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:45 pm

not a big surprise. The talent level is way down, and the next two years are going to be rough. No JV team this year. There is nothing professionally he would gain by staying. In fact, the Millikan-Poly game next year should be competitive.

It's amazing how fortunes have changed. The talent have Bravely went east, and our basketball team doesn't have a center or power forward. Again...raided away.

Hope Willie Mac grabs the job. He was rumored to want the job last time it opened.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby cruiser » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:42 pm

Raul Lara - I'm betting the LBP administration would like to talk with you
(They have an apology letter written up already)

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby hit the lights » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:06 am

You need a full time recruiter / coach, not a guy on ESPN or sports center. If you can take out Bosco, you will win the neighborhood. WHO WILL BE COMMITTED? They will need to bring a whole staff too, since alot of those guys are at Calabasas now, and Casey Clausen is now coach is now at Alemany. The Talent is still there, but these other big time programs are going nation wide, county wide, world wide. ATTRACT and they will come. lol :lol:

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby NJtoNYCtoSOC » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:18 am

I don’t have direct knowledge of the situation, but I don’t think it’s as simple as “Attract and they will come” anymore at LBP. Pierce fought with the district on their tightening of transfer rules within the district. If a public school doesn’t have open enrollment or other loopholes available to them like CC and MV, they have little chance of being a perennial power.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby Daforno » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:31 am

It's never going to be the same as the old days for POLY. In the old days Poly was the choice, NO MORE!!!

Bosco will raid them ( as they currently do ) until the talent pool is empty.

Imagine the scene in a potential Poly player's living room when the Bosco "rep" ( won't be the coach, as recruiting is frowned upon ) shows up with FULL TUTION and a Van to drive both ways.

Do you really think Mom and Dad say NO!!! Come on!!! What parent would turn down a private school vs a public school?

Possibly safety? possibly exposure? possibly a D1 opportunity?

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:26 pm

what factors have contributed to the downfall of LB Poly? because I know they dropped their JV football program

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby hit the lights » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:33 am

NYC,
With the big money that hustle and flows through the Poly alum, you dont think they could pay off those district
employees? Bob Johnson is right when he says the private or should you go a step further and say BIG TIME programs,
D-1, SHOULD BE PUT INTO THEIR OWN LEAGUE, or reclassified as????
When the big guys are done raiding the cupboards, then the other schools will compete against themselves.
re league
re classify
1)Trinity(OC)
2)NEW LEAGUE, Big 6
Bosco
Poly
serra
Narbonne
Crenshaw
Dorsey
what happened to Carson? That could be a great place for a revival.
3)Inland Empire
Corona Centennial
Upland
Rancho Cucamonga
Norco
4) Valley
Oaks Christian
Calabasas
Alemany
Valencia
Paraclete
5)Then break down all the other leagues
South Coast
MV
San Clemente
Capo Valley
El Toro
Tesoro
6)Sunset
Edison
Los AL
CDM
HB
NEWPORT
7)Downey
Gahr
Warren
Dominguez
Lynwood
Paramount
etc.....
Then think about San Diego counties and their top tier private programs
Cathedral Catholic
etc...
These top programs are looking at all these schools and cherry picking players, and it is a unlevel playing field.
Now add in the 16 year old freshman who drives himself to school on the first day, man you got a serious thing going on in hs football. Some off shore casino's have taken this to a whole new level too. Next up,
hold on tight to your 5 year old, they next.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby MDDad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:01 am

People call repeatedly for private schools to be placed in their own division. In essence, they already are. It's called Division 1. 11 of the 18 teams in that division are privates, and I suspect they'll be joined next year by Oaks Christian. That number will go up and down as the quality of programs changes. However, I don't see a compelling reason to put schools like Crespi, St. Bonaventure and Cathedral into a separate private school division when there are twenty public programs that can spank them regularly. The current system addresses the issue of competitive equity very well. If people have some other agenda for wanting the privates separated, that's their problem.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby Playthegame » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:17 pm

MDDad wrote:Source of the post People call repeatedly for private schools to be placed in their own division. In essence, they already are.


I disagree, the lowers can be put in a separate Private league, 11 does not equal 18, and the problem is only really with the Trinity and maybeeeeeee Corona Centennial, we'll see if MV can replicate their past performance.

I am good with making it illegal to discount tuition to private school for athletic transfer purposes, so in essence if you play a varsity sport and 1-4 star recruit no paid assistance and no van pools...Public transportation is ok tho, good reason to legislate a voucher system but I think the teacher's Union might have a problem with that.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby MDDad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:29 pm

Playthegame wrote:I am good with making it illegal to discount tuition to private school for athletic transfer purposes, so in essence if you play a varsity sport and 1-4 star recruit no paid assistance and no van pools.

I'm not sure how that would pass muster from a constitutional standpoint. Are you proposing that kids who don't play sports be allowed to get need-based financial aid, and kids who play sports but aren't "1-5 star" prospects get need-based financial aid, but "1-5 star" players be denied the same aid? Not only will that never survive legal challenge, but it ensures that almost all the "1-5 star" players (most of whom can't afford private school at full tuition) end up going to public schools.

Which I suspect is what you'd really prefer, right?

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby cruiser » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:02 pm

..if a voucher system was ever passed in CALI, the religious/private schools could not handle
all the applications they would get, other private schools would open up also, The teachers
union would have none of it and pour money (you're tax dollars) into defeating the legislation.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby jb914 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:41 pm

by cruiser » Sat Dec 23, 2017, 2:02 pm
..if a voucher system was ever passed in CALI, the religious/private schools could not handle
all the applications


This talk of vouchers has been going on since I was in 1st grade in the 70's. I don't see this happening in my lifetime. I don't think the teachers' unions would ever let this happen.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby Playthegame » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:48 pm

MDDad wrote:Source of the post kids who play sports but aren't "1-5 star" prospects get need-based financial aid, but "1-5 star" players be denied the same aid? Not only will that never survive legal challenge, but it ensures that almost all the "1-5 star" players (most of whom can't afford private school at full tuition) end up going to public schools.


Right...and to be fair to the non star kids, if they are of the religion of the school, and the school wants to bless a family then that is fine as long as they attend the local parish, church etc...Religious freedom all the way, but in general...go to school where you live if you can not AFFORD private school, if you are 1-4 star recruit in Cali you can go JC and if you are worthy get a schollie to collie when you have shown the grades and ability to play at the next level.

In California no one is deprived of an education...paid inducements to play at a private school is not needed to assist the poor...and if the prospect is not a catholic then even more weight to allow the wonderful education system in Cali to fulfill it's mandate....

I know that sounds crazy! Right...

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby MDDad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:20 pm

You could have just said, "I want to stack the rules to ensure that all 1-5 star kids are economically forced to go to public schools."

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby Playthegame » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:28 am

All are not...only the ones who can not afford private school...the others have public. Also if a 1-5 is attending the local parish or church no problem as that is absolutely appropriate...as opposed to stacking a team with the best players money can buy.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby MDDad » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:50 am

Playthegame wrote:All are not...only the ones who can not afford private school...the others have public.

You could have just said, "I want only rich, white kids to go to private schools so the public school teams can beat them up."

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby jb914 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:29 am

Playthegame wrote:All are not...only the ones who can not afford private school...the others have public. Also if a 1-5 is attending the local parish or church no problem as that is absolutely appropriate...as opposed to stacking a team with the best players money can buy.


You forgot the part about giving out coupons at mass to all those kids attending, so, they could get further discounts. We could call the coupons 'domingos'

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby MDDad » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:40 am

Amazon will soon offer a new version of the old dominoes game called Domingos, although it has some very strange rules. There are equal numbers of white, black and Polynesian playing pieces, but you can only play with the white ones.

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Re: Long Beach poly coach resigns

Postby jb914 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:49 am

and you can only get free tuition if you attend Latin masses.

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