Sheriffs Say President Does Not Have Their Support

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Excellent point, Joefutbol. Well stated. =D>
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Obama supporters - there is no need to get excited about the new PEP Program. It is designed to further damage immigration enforcement -oh wait - that is a good thing for you guys. Although I'll be darned if I know why letting foreign criminals roam the streets of the USA is safe and good for we citizens.

Here are some changes to enforcement priorities.
Among other things, the changes oblige immigration agents to walk away from aliens who have:

* Been convicted of crimes not covered by the new "priorities";
* Repeatedly crossed the border illegally — even though reentry after deportation is a federal felony — when they are encountered and arrested by state and local police and
* Been ordered deported by an immigration judge, but fled in lieu of complying.
The most damaging aspect of the new "PEP" rules is that, henceforth, immigration agents will be forbidden to file detainers to hold aliens arrested by police until they can arrive to take custody of them. Instead, agents are limited to asking police to notify them in advance of the alien's release date so that they can show up in a timely manner if they wish to assume custody. That's unworkable for many reasons.
http://cis.org/cadman/analysis-obamas-e ... munities-0
And there is much much more.
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joefutbol wrote:All men are created equal. That's right, men, not women.
All women are created evil.
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Yeah!! Eve started it. Led Adam astray and got him kicked out of the garden...
And men have cheerfully (lustfully) followed ever since... :lol:
Who said it was an apple that was the bait??? :wink:
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RP posted; " What steps have you taken to get the Constitution amended to end birthright citizenship other than blathering about it on a widely read forum? Talk is cheap"

It is not that the Constitution has to be amended. There have been 3 SCOTUS decisions re-interpreting the 14th amendment, a couple of congressional acts, and several AG decisions...
Either another SCOTUS decision or interpretation or Congressional act would easily do the trick..
AG's decisions are moot once that AG is no longer in position and another AG rejects or replaces it...
So pucker up, RP, a majority of US citizens are demanding change... Not in your favor :wink:
So far, our chicken hearted "fearless leaders" are afraid to act in favor of the citizen's wishes..
That might cost them a couple of votes and their seat at the slop chute.... :puke:

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Trog: As the SCOTUS has deemed birthright citizenship a constitutional right, the only way it can be taken away is by the SCOTUS reversing course or by an amendment to the Constitution. Passing a law or the AG's interpretation is only relevant as described below.
The way to get the SCOTUS involved is for Congress to pass a bill and the president sign the bill into law (or Congress overriding a veto) that ends birthright citizenship. The second that happens, there will be a lawsuit filed in federal court challenging the law. It will then work its way through the system and the rulings might go in favor of the haters who have closed their hearts and minds to the spirit of America. Or it might go the other way.
The only way for the haters to get what they want is to amend the Constitution. That will take all the risk out of the equation.
The point I am making is that Brooke/Bev/NoDoubt/BJMac/etcetcetc just whines about the problem rather than taking any action to solve it.
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It is not hate, RP.. It is common sense.. This country is like a life boat, over capacity already. We can't support any more casualties without sinking.. People come here for a better life, what good does it do to drag us down to the level they are fleeing from.
It would be far better for these 12 million invaders, and the many times that wannabies back home, to force positive changes back home.. Get rid of the corrupt politicians, graft and draconian laws. Rise up and become more like the US instead of importing those same conditions here.. Help create a better world instead of destroying ours.
You wouldn't be trying to tell me "your people" aren't capable of that, are you??
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:yeahthat: Excellent Trog.
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Shall we get on track again and discuss Obama's plans to flood the United States with illegal aliens that will trigger an even bigger flow of illegals and the relatives of the newly anointed? And how his trickery and treachery should be an affront to all Americans except the open borders extremists?

I would love to know why many on this forum think Obama's plans for illegals will benefit the USA and its citizens. It is designed to populate this country with democrats that will certainly and eventually turn the USA on its head into a socialist country.

We all know that socialism doesn't work. It is a miserable failure.

The only think I can think of is that Obama's plans appeal to the PC who are addicted to feel good rather than do good or do smart.

If he succeeds Obama will have sealed his legacy and he will go down in history as single-handedly changing the USA into something it was never meant to be.
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My people? My people, like me, are good old fashioned Americans who are educated and not oppressed by a corrupt system.
What you are suggesting is that uneducated people who are kept in place by corruption and who have families to feed today rise up and solve the problems of their countries. Good luck with that. :roll:
When Americans get over their insatiable need for cheap stuff and labor the flow of invited guests into our country will stop. But until I see high school and college kids picking crops, I know that our attitude will maintain the status quo.
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:yeahthat:

How could you possibly want a serious discussion with a thought process that makes the following statement...?

Shall we get on track again and discuss Obama's plans to flood the United States with illegal aliens that will trigger an even bigger flow of illegals and the relatives of the newly anointed? And how his trickery and treachery should be an affront to all Americans except the open borders extremists?

It's a dishonest statement. You have always poisoned any well that could have been plumbed with discussion. You are so immersed in Bev being right, you simply can't see wrong when it jumps up and slaps you in the face. Reasonable discussion is not possible with you...you aren't a reasonable person.
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We all know that socialism doesn't work. It is a miserable failure.

A statement that can only be described as profoundly ignorant, and completely wrong.

In reality Socialism works fine. Just ask the Swedes, the Finns, the Norwegians, the Brits, the Canadians, etc. Not only does it work well, they're happier and healthier than we are.
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Yeah, but it's so much harder to become a billionaire in those places.
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It's not hard to become a billionaire in those places: Just start out as a trillionaire! :lol: :lol:
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Parrotpaul: It's a dishonest statement. You have always poisoned any well that could have been plumbed with discussion. You are so immersed in Bev being right, you simply can't see wrong when it jumps up and slaps you in the face. Reasonable discussion is not possible with you...you aren't a reasonable person.
How is it dishonest? What is wrong? If you want me to see it and understand it then you must be specific.
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I lived in Canada a long time. For some strange reason the union workers that are everywhere get very lazy and very specific what their job descriptions are. To the point of being moronic.

Also when living in Canada, you must always put up with strikes. Postal workers, garbage men, buses don't run, etc. It's always something.

So, I am very familiar with living in that kind of environment and also at how expensive everything is and how tough it is to make a decent living.
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Bev...the above post is an example of your dishonesty. You make sweeping generalizations that are well.....pretty sweeping and pretty generalized. Writing has to be truthful...yours isn't. It's from a very narrow POV and view of life and living.
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joefutbol wrote:Yeah, but it's so much harder to become a billionaire in those places.
Maybe a little harder but the folks who started IKEA, Volvo, Saab, Lego, Huskvarna (sp?), etc. will tell you it isn't impossible. Their employees will probably tell you it ain't so bad.

FWIW the odds of becoming one in this country aren't all that high, either.
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Speaking of sweeping generalizations. You are the master.

It's not dishonest, it is what I experienced.

You are dishonest, because you cannot name one thing that I have said that is dishonest.

There is safety and cowardice in hiding behind vague criticism so that you don't risk being criticized yourself. Let me know when you want to have a serious discussion instead of playing stupid games.
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RP wrote; "What you are suggesting is that uneducated people who are kept in place by corruption and who have families to feed today rise up and solve the problems of their countries. Good luck with that. :roll:

Uneducated American colonists and French "rabble" lead to big changes in their countries..

Are you saying there are no longer any men like these to lead to change Latin America...
Antonio José de Sucre in Ecuador, José Leonardo Chirino and José Caridad González in Haiti, Simón Bolívar in Venezuela, José Gervasio Artigas in Uruguay, Fulgencio Yegros and José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia in Paraguay, and many others all leading fed up uneducated people who are kept in place by corruption and who have families to feed .. LINK

we can go on to Lenin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, and even the Arab Spring to find uneducated people who sought to change their lives and countries.. Maybe not quite the change they wanted but they rebelled against the status quo and won.
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