For Every New Job, Two New Immigrants

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Here is the best reason in the world to reject illegal immigration and cut the numbers on legal immigration down to a sustainable level that doesn't impact U.S. population growth that destroys jobs for American workers.

For Every New Job, Two New Immigrants
Since 2000: 9.3 million new jobs, 18 million new immigrants
February 2015

Government data collected in December 2014 show 18 million immigrants (legal and illegal) living in the United States who arrived in January 2000 or later. But only 9.3 million jobs were added over this time period. In addition, the native-born population 16 and older grew by 25.2 million. Because job growth has not come close to matching immigration and population growth, the share of Americans in the labor force has declined dramatically — a clear indication there is no labor shortage.

Despite this, Congress is considering proposals to increase legal immigration even further; and during the last Congress the Senate actually passed the Schumer-Rubio bill (S.744), which would have doubled legal immigration and legalized illegal immigrants.1 Congress's disregard for the absorption capacity of the U.S. labor market has profound consequences for American workers.
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And people wonder why our young people are spending all day getting high. :-k People looking forward to a great life don't need to self medicate themselves.
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The democrats and this administration has found a simple solutions to the illegal alien problem.
Just make them all legal.. Problem solved, as long as they all know who to vote for,,,,
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Our young people are spending all day getting high? Wow!!! Where did that one come from?
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Guess you haven't spent too much time around young people lately, Paul..
You need to get out of your enclave once in a while.. Mean time, that's off topic.. :wink:
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I'm around them about 12 to 15 hours day.

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And where, pray tell, do you two hang out with "young people" enough to know what the heck they are doing...all day long.....or was that simply a poorly chosen figure of speech? As to its being topical, perhaps you should have mentioned that to TT earlier...he introduced it. Just sayin'
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Maybe you need to spend a little more time listening and observing, Fordy..
The drug problem is a little different among the higher income bracket kids..
It's not just coke and weed, it's Mommy's medicine cabinet with them too...
Xanax to take the edge off a half dozen triple shot lattes or 5 hour energy taken for cramming or video games that night, Then a hand full of diet pills to "wake up" the next morning.
Dad's Viagra for a date (works on women too). Ritalin or Xanax to slow down the rush from extacy..
Hmmm.. I wonder what a hand full of these birth control pills will do, or these yellow ones..
Real life is boring to these kids, you gotta go super sonic to really live...
Meanwhile, back to immigration problems.... --:--

The U.S. government has confirmed that effective May 26, 2015, some holders of the H-4 visa, who are spouses of high-skilled workers on the H-1B visa, will be eligible for work authorisation, a potential boon for approximately 179,600 individuals in the first year alone. LINK
Just what we need, a bunch more immigrants in the labor pool...
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Just what we need, a bunch more immigrants in the labor pool...

And this coming from a guy who lives with four immigrants?
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We've been through that before, Paul.. You remember my posts about talking to the kids at pier plaza?
All you have to do is be nonjudgmental and not act like a "lech" and they'll tell you all kinds of stuff..
If by both, you mean Fordy, I suppose he hangs out as a substitute in a South County class room berating math students.. Don't think the kids will open up their "secrets" in that environment.. :lol:
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Paul, I told you before, It is kinda polite to wait for me to hit "submit" before responding to my posts. :wink:
Kinda cranky this morning? Want to sit down over coffee and talk about it?? :lol:
My 4 "immigrants" were all legal when they got here. Plus they are all citizens now... They did it the right way.
They didn't need any political maneuvering or expediences to get here...
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Oh, my error then. When you referred to immigrants, I was under the impression you meant ALL immigrants.

Why the attitude?
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When I say young people I'm not talking about high school age kids. Under 18 your a child in my book. I'm talking about 21-30 year old people with a college degrees. Some with master degrees who are working at some coffee shop and living with Mom and Dad. They can find work but not a career. Their in huge debt from college and credit cards and feel that they were lied to about needing a college education.

The importing of computer engineers from India is killing the job market for young and old American computer engineers and it keeps the wages low.

The plan is to.........

1. Keep wages low.
2. Keep profits high.
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I know a man about 31 years old who graduated from law school about 5 years ago that cannot find a full time job as a lawyer. He works for his dad, who is a lawyer, two or three times a week. His wife works full time, he babysits the days he doesn't work and grandma babysits once or twice a week.

He hopes to take over his dad's practice one day, but dad worries that he won't have enough experience to keep his clients happy.
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Your are absolutely right Tommy and the opposing side knows it. Why they get their noses out-of-joint supposedly protecting illegal aliens and poorly paid foreign workers at the expense of their fellow Americans doesn't make sense in any way, shape of form.

Perhaps you can ask them to explain that attitude Tommy - they won't answer me and I have been asking them for years.

Where is the compassion for their fellow citizens and what a weird attitude to have for your own country? They are hoping for third world wages for everyone in the US and around the world. How is that for intelligent thinking?

Do you suppose they can afford to look down their noses as the US deteriorates as long as their quality of life doesn't change? It doesn't make sense otherwise. Does it?
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Brooke/Bev/NoDoubt/BJMac/andsomeotherscreennameIsuspectsheisusing and TommyTar are right: All those unemployed college grads are pining away for the field picking jobs taken by unpapered workers. :roll:
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Here is a correction in statistics of work permits issued as an aside and in secret from new legal immigrants and foreign guest workers that are reported publicly. Take note how the information was obtained.

Correction: Number of Work Permits Was Actually 7.4 Million

According to government statistics obtained from USCIS through a FOIA request, the total number of work permits issued by USCIS from 2009 to 2014 is 7.4 million. Due to a spreadsheet error, my original report on the encrypted data received from USCIS incorrectly stated that the total number of work permits issued in these years was 5.5 million. We regret the error.

What kind of government is this? American citizens don't have a clue what is really going on!

The updated report includes new issuances (4.7 million) and renewals of expired work permits (2.7 million), and a breakdown of the number of work permits issued to aliens with temporary and permanent status, illegal aliens, and aliens whose status is unknown.

There has been strong interest from lawmakers and the public in this revelation of a huge parallel system of work authorization that is in addition to the number of new legal immigrants and new temporary guest workers admitted in these years. The discovery that the number issued was actually higher than originally reported serves to reinforce the concerns raised by the report on the impact on U.S. labor markets and the integrity of our immigration laws.
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The discovery that the number issued was actually higher than originally reported serves to reinforce the concerns raised by the report on the impact on U.S. labor markets and the integrity of our immigration laws.
Does that actually say that I should be even more outraged because the writer can't add?

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JQP: Does that actually say that I should be even more outraged because the writer can't add?
No, but I think you should be glad that they are upfront when they make errors. They work with government statistics everyday, there are bound to be mistakes occasionally.
JQP: My employer would like to replace me with a housewife. Should they be banned as well?
Who? Housewives or employers?

OK then, so why do you approve of foreign workers coming into the USA to take American jobs? I don't understand your attitude. You are fighting against yourself. Can you explain the why of your thinking please?
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The whole picture is that the democrats and this administration is nickeling and diming in whole groups of immigrants into the "legal" segments of immigrants. The dream act, the border jumping children, now spouses and children of temporary H1 and H2B immigrants, when will this end.
Sounds like they want to just open the doors to all, even if they can't benefit the US.
Europe has reconsidered their immigration policies after all the problems unrestricted immigration has caused them. Now Obama and the dems are dead set to charge on in the face of that proven failure.
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