Living In A Socialist Country

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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby Wabash » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:33 am

sbayhills wrote:You had to go back to the late 1700's for that one Wabash.

Adam Smith is revered by advocates of the free market. Smith is the individual that coined the term "invisible hand" when describing the optimization of resource allocation. The particular statement I cited earliers is taken from his seminal work, The Wealth of Nations.

It is just as applicable today as it was then.
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby sbayhills » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:39 am

My family is different than both of you. We go out of our way to support local business as much as possible. We need a healthy local economy.

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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby Wabash » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:42 am

I still patronize a lot of local businesses. I just don't go to large shopping malls very often.
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby Parrotpaul » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:57 am

Save it will you, please.

I have worked at many jobs both private and public and the military. My most enjoyable job ever was teaching high school...yep, union job, and I was an active union officer. My choice of careers had nothing to do with private, public, union or non-union, or the lousy pay scales we endured...I liked the job.

You constantly bitch about Wabash not exactly working for a living...trust me...Wabash did more to earn his pay than you will ever imagine. I know...I witnessed him in action, and it has nothing to do with my friendship with Wabash.
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby Wabash » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:11 am

sbayhills wrote:I support the private sector and have no issues of anyone making high profits in a competitive work place. You have always been anti-business, especially those which make a lot of money.

You would be wrong. I have no problem with high profits when they are derived via true competition. I have a problem with high profits and especially high salaries when they are derived via any number of tactics of manipulation used by the business community to ensure their profitability. No one has yet been able to explain to me why I only have one choice to buy cable TV (even though I cut that cord long ago) in my city. Same with who picks up my trash. Coincidentally those are some of the most profitable corporations in our country.

sbayhills wrote:Those of us who have spent our careers in the private sector instead of being supported by tax dollars both when they were working and when they retire, do have a different perspective.

I worked in the private sector. Save your condescending attitude. I didn't find it that difficult to do well in that environment.
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby John Q. Public » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:50 am

Two personal attacks removed. Can we please try to stay somewhere close to whatever the topic is?
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby Parrotpaul » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:23 am

My family is different than both of you. We go out of our way to support local business as much as possible. We need a healthy local economy.

So do we, but when opportunities arise where we can save gas, time, money, and aggravation...the local businesses will have to take second place to our own personal economy...which is always the first economy we consider...we have nothing against local businesses.

We eat and drink in local restaurants and sports bars; we patronize Home Depot, Costco, and local garden businesses; we buy lots of gasoline; we have our cars serviced; we see local physicians and dentists; Ted's and sometimes Knowlwood's gets much of our breakfast money; we like Smart and Final...how are you different?
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Re: Living In A Socialist Country

Postby not4u13 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:31 am

Not everyone in big box retail is suffering. Some are doing well. I'm not sure what you call Costco, but they are doing just fine and with a very good demographic. It isn't just about online sales, it is about how you are choosing to retail. The perceptions people have about your brand are becoming much more important and those perceptions can be dramatically influenced by social media. Best Buy for example has a strong online presence, but people are confused by the brand. They keep trying to innovate but failing. They tried to be a music store. A real music store for real musicians. They had the merchandise but not the attitude. It failed. They sell appliances and lately they are trying to partner with Pacific Sales to boost their appliance sales. The results are mixed in part because nobody really thinks of Best Buy as an appliance retailer. My last appliance purchase was from Home Depot. Before that it was at Lowes.

The concept of a department store is now lost on people.

Target is doing well even as Walmart is struggling in part because Walmart has gained a very bad reputation as being a bad corporate citizen. Something Target has avoided. They have expanded to include grocery and your traditional grocery store has expanded too. Specialty stores are doing quite well, even in the retail space.

It isn't online shopping. It is the entire shopping experience that has changed and the big box retail experience isn't what consumers really want.
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