Steel Tariffs

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Post by Wabash » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:55 am

Keep in mind. When the GOP took over the House in 2010, they promised a Jobs Bill would be their top priority.

Eight years and no Jobs Bill.

And here we are.
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Post by broman » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:04 pm

In the 1980s, American steelmakers needed 10.1 man-hours to produce a ton of steel; now they need 1.5 man-hours (see chart above), says Joe Innace of S&P Global Platts. Most American steel is now made at super-efficient mini mills, which use electric arc furnaces to turn scrap metal into steel. (Traditional integrated steel mills make steel from scratch, feeding iron ore and coking coal into blast furnaces. Some mini-mills need just 0.5 man-hours to produce a ton of steel.
http://www.aei.org/publication/the-main ... ming-back/

Same thing happened to the coal miners. More efficient production reduces the number of jobs.

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Re: Steel Tariffs

Post by Wabash » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:32 pm

There was a time that if one's only skill set was manual dexterity, one could get a job that paid middle class wages.

Those days are long gone. And they aren't coming back.
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Post by MDDad » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:19 pm

Bingo. Which increases the insanity of bringing in unskilled immigrants in large numbers.

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Post by John Q. Public » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:40 pm

How long till Donald announces he's personally negotiated the greatest deal in history to keep 3 of the GM plants operating in exchange for federal educational assistance to train auto workers to build electric and autonomous cars?

I wonder how tall Mary Barra is.
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Re: Steel Tariffs

Post by Wabash » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm

MDDad wrote:Bingo. Which increases the insanity of bringing in unskilled immigrants in large numbers.
Great idea. Let's force those auto workers to go work in the fields. Or car washes. Or hotels. Or motels.

Wow! I think you're on to something.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:50 pm

Which increases the insanity of bringing in unskilled immigrants in large numbers

As we all know there are plenty of jobs that need doing that Americans won't do because they don't pay middle class wages
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Post by Wabash » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:29 am

Yup. This is the same group that Clinton told she wanted to retrain for the jobs and industries of the future. They voted for Trump. It's hard for me to get to worked up over their plight.

I will send thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Steel Tariffs

Post by John Q. Public » Wed May 08, 2019 7:56 am

John Q. Public wrote: How long till Donald announces he's personally negotiated the greatest deal in history to keep 3 of the GM plants operating in exchange for federal educational assistance to train auto workers to build electric and autonomous cars?
The gambit worked. And I'm sure AOC will be pleased to see that they want to make electric trucks. Not too sure about truck buyers, though. They aren't exactly "on-board" with electric vehicles. (See "rolling coal.")

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