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Re: California Regulations

Post by Troglodyte » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:24 am

kramer wrote:
They thought they were saving the economy, that is why they threw money at the banks. And as far as not wanting to give money to build roads, I don't agree with this in part because here in CA, republicans have been trying to keep the road taxes from being used on other projects. As for the national Republicans that voted against road repair, was this when the road bill had billions of other spending along with the road repairs? If so (and I believe this is the case), then good for the Republicans.




I never said I supported TARP, I don't know enough about it to take a position. I assume if Republicans voted for it, it must have been for a good reason. That doesn't mean I support it.
I'm also not a fan of the Federal Reserve. I think it needs to go.
The $Billions collected every year in gasoline tax is supposed to be used for road building. Unfortunately, most of that gets siphoned off for 'social' programs and the pols have to gouge us for more taxes to repair roads and bridges. Then they create more 'social' programs, and the vicious cycle begins anew. :-xxx

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Re: California Regulations

Post by kramer » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:48 am

Troglodyte wrote: The $Billions collected every year in gasoline tax is supposed to be used for road building. Unfortunately, most of that gets siphoned off for 'social' programs and the pols have to gouge us for more taxes to repair roads and bridges. Then they create more 'social' programs, and the vicious cycle begins anew. :-xxx
I know. This annoys me to no end.
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Re: California Regulations

Post by Brooke » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:36 pm

tLIB wrote: And my question was - why didn't the Republicans do something when they were in power? That is one reason why I was a Libertarian all of those years. They are all a bunch of hypocrites.
I think the overall answer to this is obvious. Big Business lobbyists rule Capitol Hill. Most Republicans aren't going to do anything to jeopardize their standing with them. Which answers the question I had for so long, why did the Republican party abandon its party's ideals.
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Re: California Regulations

Post by Brooke » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:38 pm

kramer wrote:
I disagree. I think the majority of them are hypocrites. There are a few good politicians, Ron Paul comes to mind.
Senator Jeff Sessions is one of the best in my opinion.
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Re: California Regulations

Post by Fordama » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:30 pm

Brooke wrote: I think the overall answer to this is obvious. Big Business lobbyists rule Capitol Hill.
And yet when I state that corporations (big business) have meddled in American foreign policy you start protesting!

Make up your mind!

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Re: California Regulations

Post by Brooke » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:02 am

Brooke wrote: I think the overall answer to this is obvious. Big Business lobbyists rule Capitol Hill.
Ford wrote:And yet when I state that corporations (big business) have meddled in American foreign policy you start protesting!

Make up your mind!

Fordama
I think you are mixing me up with someone else. I haven't said anything about corporations meddling in American foreign policy on this thread. I would like for you to give some concrete examples please so that I will know exactly what you are talking about. All of this stuff is very fuzzy.
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Re: California Regulations

Post by Fordama » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:34 am

Brooke wrote: I think you are mixing me up with someone else. I haven't said anything about corporations meddling in American foreign policy on this thread.
Over in the other thread where I mention American intervention in the internal affairs of foreign governments.

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Re: California Regulations

Post by Elroy El » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:31 am

Brooke wrote:I think the overall answer to this is obvious. Big Business lobbyists rule Capitol Hill. Most Republicans aren't going to do anything to jeopardize their standing with them. Which answers the question I had for so long, why did the Republican party abandon its party's ideals.
So you're saying Obama is the puppet of large capitalist interests? Doesn't that conflict with the mantra of his bringing us to socialism and tyranny?
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Post by GOODave » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:35 am

Elroy El wrote: So you're saying Obama is the puppet of large capitalist interests? Doesn't that conflict with the mantra of his bringing us to socialism and tyranny?
If you see these as diametrically opposed, you really don't understand the concept. One can push us towards socialism EVEN WHILE he or she lines his or her pockets from the existing power brokers.

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Re: California Regulations

Post by Fordama » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:15 am

Elroy El wrote: So you're saying Obama is the puppet of large capitalist interests? Doesn't that conflict with the mantra of his bringing us to socialism and tyranny?
Don't expect any consistency of thought.

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Re: California Regulations

Post by tLIB » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:51 pm

Brooke wrote: I think the overall answer to this is obvious. Big Business lobbyists rule Capitol Hill. Most Republicans aren't going to do anything to jeopardize their standing with them. Which answers the question I had for so long, why did the Republican party abandon its party's ideals.
I agree with that. Kramer, I think she made the best point.

As per McCain being picked for us - I am not sure what you mean. He got more Republican votes than any other Republican. I didn't vote for him either, but we picked him. Obviously someone voted for him. Those are the people we need to blame.

Now Obama is in there doing what Democrats do while the Republicans complain. Didn't they see this coming when they/we picked McCain?

You mention Ron Paul. He was my first choice - like I said before. He was against the war. He was against TARP. He was against the big spending by the Republicans when they were in power. Why didn't the Republicans choose him? I think it would have forced them to admit they were wrong on the war. I think Ron Paul's position on the Iraq war made it impossible for Republicans to vote for him. So I blame Bush and I blame those who voted for Bush. It is their fault Obama is in there right now.
Trog wrote:Kinda political suiciide to take away a bone that was tossed to the public after it has been given.
Trog. That is the problem. Getting elected is Job #1. But that doesn't explain why the Republicans spent so much money (remember the war was off budget until Obama took office). I like Ron Paul's statement that goes something like this: "It is great that the Republicans are now wanting to cut spending. But where were they over the last 7 years?"

Now the Democrats are in power and Republicans want to talk about fiscal conservatism? :hitonhead:

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Re: California Regulations

Post by kramer » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:22 pm

Looks like I was right (but not in implantation)
kramer, 2009 wrote: Would you support tougher regulations on cars such that all cars were required to we have a GPS system installed so that it could tell which road we were on and automatically limit our speed to that road's speed limit? (BTW, I predict this is coming our way).

http://occonnect.com/community/viewtopi ... ed#p135538
EU plans to fit all cars with speed limiters
By Claire Carter8:49AM BST 01 Sep 2013


Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/roa ... iters.html

Another vision of our future under control by the voyeuristic paranoid control freak leftists (aka the Utopians).
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