Jim Clausen should be #1 for the Heisman

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The #1 qb in the NCAA. Only haters can't see it. :cheers:
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I'm still trying to figure out why the Purdue coach called a time out with just 30+ seconds left..
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kicks2 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why the Purdue coach called a time out with just 30+ seconds left..
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Me too. I'm glad he did though, gave Jimmy another shot or two to win the game. I really think Charlie needs to go. Gruden is available and the Irish would be mighty once again.
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Me too. I'm glad he did though, gave Jimmy another shot or two to win the game. I really think Charlie needs to go. Gruden is available and the Irish would be mighty once again.
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ND7 wrote:The #1 qb in the NCAA. Only haters can't see it. :cheers:
So only QBs should win the Heisman?

I think the fans at Cal might have something to say about that.
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afan95 wrote:
So only QBs should win the Heisman?

I think the fans at Cal might have something to say about that.
Great point. It seems to have devolved that way hasn't it. I think Best, Clausen and Tebow are the top players so far this year.

Clausen helped his case more yesterday than Best. That Locker kid should not be left out also.
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ND7 wrote: Great point. It seems to have devolved that way hasn't it. I think Best, Clausen and Tebow are the top players so far this year.

Clausen helped his case more yesterday than Best. That Locker kid should not be left out also.
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ND7 wrote: Jimmy Clausen Heisman winner... :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
I recognize that this thread is intentionally a bit over-the-top but:

Jimmy has shown himself to be one of the most efficient QBs in the game.
And his toughness can no longer be questioned.
But Heisman winners don't emerge out of underachieving teams.

Unfortunately for Jimmy, ND's defense allowed that team to slip out of the AP Top-25 (from 23 to 34 in the first three weeks). With his turf toe - which won't get better easily - and the loss of Floyd, Jimmy's year looks only a little brighter than that of Charlie Weis. They'll win some games this year, and go to a bowl game - but they're not a good team. Jimmy is a true star, and should be mentioned in next-year's pre-season Heisman talk, but Charlie's wife has already started packing his bags. After all, she's a fighting Irish fan too.
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GGArgoFan wrote:

Me too. I'm glad he did though, gave Jimmy another shot or two to win the game. I really think Charlie needs to go. Gruden is available and the Irish would be mighty once again.
I had always been a little suspect of Jimmy's toughness... not anymore... he really showed some heart and game - he stuck it out and performed despite having a bad foot.

I almost get the feeling Gruden is waiting in the wings... and I think most Irish fans are ready for a change.
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kicks2 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why the Purdue coach called a time out with just 30+ seconds left..
:eh?:
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kicks2 wrote:Go Huskies!!!!

Go home Huskies.. :ROFL:
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Wow Jimmy was what, 70% for 422 yards and 2 TD's. After 10/17 he will be the guy to beat. :thumbsup:
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There is no doubt Jimmy and Golden had great great days.....

But the Defense won the game by slamming the door in Washington face three times on the goal line.

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1stngoal wrote:There is no doubt Jimmy and Golden had great great days.....

But the Defense won the game by slamming the door in Washington face three times on the goal line.

GO IRISH
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This strange Heisman season took another twist last week when Florida quarterback Tim Tebow took the hit seen 'round the world and suffered a concussion on the play. The Watch would like to wish Tebow a speedy recovery, but what does this mean for Gator's Heisman hopes? Well, we'd rather not worry about until, and if, he actually misses a game.

In other news, running back Jahvid Best and quarterback Jacory Harris joined BYU's Max Hall as former top Heisman contenders, and their teams' meltdowns on Saturday have shaken up this week's Watch.
1. QB Tim Tebow, Sr., Florida

Last week: 5-of-10 passing, 103 yards, 1 TD; 16 rushes, 123 yards, 2 TDs in a 41-7 victory at Kentucky

Season: 44-of-68 passing, 643 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT; 55 rushes, 271 yards, 5 TDs

Heisman-o-meter: The Watch will go out on a limb and say that Tebow reclaiming the top spot is not the main concern of Gators fans right now. He suffered a concussion after getting pummeled by Kentucky's Taylor Wyndham and hitting his head on the knee of lineman Marcus Gilbert as he fell to the ground. But before his injury, Tebow returned to his dominant running self, even taking one carry for 30 yards, a career best. And, with the run game established, he took advantage of the Wildcats' defense with a perfectly executed play fake on his long touchdown pass to Aaron Hernandez, closing out a near-perfect first quarter. On Sunday, coach Urban Meyer said Tebow had been released from the hospital and that the QB would be monitored to determine how much rest he needs. But, with the Gators fortuitously idle this week, The Watch will be shocked if he does not play in Baton Rouge.

Up next: Oct. 10 at LSU
2. QB Jimmy Clausen, Jr., Notre Dame

Last week: 15-of-26 passing, 171 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT; 4 rushes, minus-13 yards in a 24-21 victory at Purdue

Season: 77-of-117 passing, 1,122 yards, 10 TDs, 1 INT; 15 rushes, minus-13 yards

Heisman-o-meter: Last week, I mentioned how Clausen failed to make the important plays -- the plays a Heisman winner is expected to make -- in the loss to Michigan. Well, he made those plays against Purdue. Visibly bothered by a turf toe injury that forced him to split time with Dayne Crist, Clausen had some signature moments in rallying the Irish to victory, capped off by the clutch, game-winning TD pass on fourth down to Kyle Rudolph. (By the way, expect Rudolph to win a Mackey Award some day.) Clausen, who had been almost flawless in the first three games, was a bit erratic against the Boilermakers, but the injury had much to do with that. And he got a bit greedy late in the first half by trying to throw to the end zone, which resulted in an interception, costing his team three points. But this gutty effort puts him in the thick of the race.

Up next: Saturday vs. Washington
3. QB Colt McCoy, Sr., Texas

Last week: 28-of-35 passing, 286 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT; 4 rushes, 15 yards in a 64-7 victory against UTEP

Season: 103-of-145 passing, 1,145 yards, 9 TDs, 5 INTs; 28 rushes, 61 yards 1 TD

Heisman-o-meter: After throwing an ugly interception on his third pass, which resulted in a pick-six (and the Miners' only points of the game), McCoy seemed on the way to repeat his 2009 m.o.: slow-starting first halves. But he quickly got back on track and, with some athletic plays from the emerging Dan Buckner and very little resistance from UTEP, the Texas triggerman looked very much like the McCoy of 2008 (except for the lack of running, which he hasn't unleashed yet). He racked up those numbers in a little more than two quarters of play and, had James Kirkendoll held on to a pass, McCoy would've had four TD scores. Perhaps now the real McCoy is back.

Up next: Oct. 10 against Colorado
4. WR Dez Bryant, Jr., Oklahoma State

Last week: Did not play in a 56-6 victory against Grambling

Season: 17 receptions, 323 yards 4 TDs; 3 punt returns, 111 yards, 1 TD; 2 kickoff returns, 43 yards

Heisman-o-meter: Because of the failures of Best and Harris, Bryant moves up without even playing. Nursing a strained hamstring, Bryant sat out on Saturday, choosing not to risk further injury against an overmatched Grambling team. His replacement, freshman Dameron Fooks, had four catches for 81 yards and two touchdowns. Bryant now gets two weeks to rest that hamstring before the Cowboys' Big 12 opener in Aggieland.

Up next: Oct. 10 at Texas A&M
5. QB Tony Pike, Sr., Cincinnati

Last week: 18-of-26 passing, 300 yards, 3 TDs; 4 rushes, 15 yards in a 28-20 victory against Fresno State

Season: 93-of-132 passing, 1,223 yards, 11 TDs, 2 INTs; 13 rushes, 38 yards, 2 TDs

Heisman-o-meter: It was another near-flawless game for Pike, who keeps moving up the list. On his first touchdown, he made a linebacker bite with a great play fake. And on the Bearcats' last two scores, Pike showed nice touch getting the ball to Mardy Gilyard, who is making a strong case to be included on The Watch, as well. Pike could've had a fourth TD pass, but sailed a ball to Gilyard when trying to throw on the run. The strong-armed Cincy quarterback may be flying under-the-radar nationally, but there are not many others playing on his level.
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The worse thing possible for usc happened today. The Irish win a tough one (that the trojans lost ) and the Trojans kill Cal. Just sayin'. 8)
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ND7 wrote:The worse thing possible for usc happened today. The Irish win a tough one (that the trojans lost :ROFL: ) and the Trojans kill Cal. Just sayin'. 8)
Interesting comparison...ND needs the #2 Heisman Trophy candidate who is a 3rd year starter to win in OT, while USC loses by 3 points (16-13) with their back-up QB who had never started a game until that one.
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afan95 wrote:
Interesting comparison...ND needs the #2 Heisman Trophy candidate who is a 3rd year starter to win in OT, while USC loses by 3 points (16-13) with their back-up QB who had never started a game until that one.
Exactly.
What does this Cal blowout say about the difference between Corp and Barkley now? You might be able to look at passing stats and things like that but leadership of a team is felt at a totally different level.

Of course, it wasn't ONLY Barkely that was out. Mays would have made a difference in that game too. How many teams could lose two of their top stars (one on offense and one on defense) and still keep a game like that close? The depth at USC continues to be astonishing.

That is one reason why Clausen probably won't get the Heisman this year. ND doesn't have the depth and will likely suffer another couple of losses this year because of it.

Besides if Tebow bounces back next week and looks like his old self, he will be the overwhelming favorite. He may even get a pass on a mediocre game ... if it is just the first game back.

Another strike against Clausen is that he is a Junior. I know ... Sam Bradford won last year ... but I don't think that will become a pattern.
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Posted by ESPN.com's Brian Bennett

Lessons from Notre Dame's 37-30 overtime win over Washington:

1. You can't leave time on the clock for Jimmy Clausen: For the second straight week, Notre Dame had to march down the field in the final three minutes for a go-ahead touchdown. And both times, Clausen made it look pretty easy. The junior quarterback has become a master at the two-minute drill with his ability to slide out of danger in the pocket and buy time until his receivers come open. And he almost always puts the throw right on the money. If the Irish find themselves in that position again this season -- and the way things are going, they certainly will -- they have the utmost confidence in their field general.
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