OC wish they had OL like this...

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Post by 2002tony » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:06 pm

Also, NFL draft this year, the no. 9 pick from Alabama, and no. 10 pick from N.Carolina were OG , at 6'2. maybe its an epidemic of small guys...LOL

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Re: OC wish they had OL like this...

Post by ocexport » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:10 pm

No way he is even close to 600, or 500, or even 400 for a clean.

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Post by joefutbol » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:20 pm

No way.

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Post by dont be that guy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:32 pm

Ocrckstar wrote:

Here is the DL transfer from SM to MV....40 reps at 205, 4.7 40 time and cleans over 600lbs. Coaches say his max bench is upwards of 485.
Nice hair on that kid. Let me guess, he transferred because of grades.

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Post by Samurai » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:25 pm

A 600lb clean would make him the strongest man on the planet. The most anyone have every cleaned in the Olympics is 581lbs! Once again he is a very strong kid but where do you come up with a 600lb clean? I would bet there aren't but a couple of kids in all of CIF that can clean over 350lbs.

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Post by joefutbol » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:39 pm

581lbs is the clean and jerk, not the clean. I don't know that there's an official world record for the clean.

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Post by Samurai » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:56 pm

Joe I know that they do C&J in the Olympics, but the most weight ever cleaned in competition was 586lbs, so 600lbs by a high school kid?

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Post by joefutbol » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:56 pm

Yeah, but it's a different lift. The poster probably made a mistake, though. No high school kid can clean that much.

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Post by Ocrckstar » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:47 pm

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Yeah, I'm not a weight lifter... I must have misinterpreted what was reported on the clean. My bad.

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Post by hit the lights » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:53 am

He's too small at 6'1 280? Tell that to Mike Patterson former Los Alamitos/USC/Philadelphia Eagle. [-X

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Re: OC wish they had OL like this...

Post by hit the lights » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:57 am

why do they block out the weight on the picture?? Maybe he lifted the 25 lb bar 40 times? Also, why is there a mom in the weight room? :-k

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Post by oldschoolfriar » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:37 am

Patterson played DL I said it was too small for OL. Depending on the needs of the colleges right at that moment they will look at the size of OL.

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Post by Luca » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:20 am

I was thinking of mentioning Mike Patterson in this discussion. I'm not sure he's over 6 feet tall but he was a tremendous high school and college defensive tackle at Los Alamitos and USC.

Height is not as critical an issue for interior defensive linemen, though it is for past rushers coming from the outside. Likewise, height is not such a big issue for interior offensive lineman as it is for offensive tackles who benefit from longer arms needed to push quicker DEs to the outside and to operate in space.

Having height is nice because it allows you to carry weight more easily, which is obviously an advantage. But one of the reasons that SC decided against moving the 6'6" Max Tuerk to center was his height and higher center of gravity versus shorter and stockier interior defensive linemen.

I don't think it's a problem for a six-foot or 6'1" DT/NG to play at higher levels. If they've got the strength and the bulk, the quickness and the technique they can compete..........


That kid is very impressively strong, RPW. I looked up some videos on him and he looks good. I have to say he's not quite as quick as you might want and I didn't see him getting downfield very much, but it's possible I didn't see enough film on him. Certainly he has the ability to move on to D1 physically but I was curious I didn't see him mentioned at center as even a two star or better on recruiting ratings. Is he being recruited as a center?...........Luca

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Post by 2002tony » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:28 am

oldschoolfriar wrote:He's too small for D1 football in college maybe D1aa most likely D2
These guys are too small to play at D1,All of these guys are OL -
UCLA - Kevin McReynolds, 6-1, Tre' Hale 6'2 275, Carl Hulck 6'2 300
Wa St - Brent Anderson 6'1 275, Denzell Dotson 6'2 321, Andy Agen 6'2 260
Co. - Daniel Munyer 2'2 295, Vencent Arvia 5'11 290
AZ - Cayman Bundage 6'2. Carter Wood 6'2 275
AZ St - Devin Goodman 6'1 279, Easton Wahlstrom 6'0 228
Cal - Matt Cochran 6'2 300

and the list can go on.....

and like I said, the no 9 and no 10 picks in the NFL draft where two guards who are both only 6'2. "Too small for D1" but not for the NFL..in the First round..oh ya, the first one played on Alabama the National Champion. Yep...too small for D1...LOL...LOL...LOL...

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Post by 2002tony » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:44 am

Luca, I brought up the center position because a lot of teams will take a guard and use/train him as a center. Not all centers in college where centers in HS.
Also, I included the center position just as a point of reference for oldschoolfriar who said he was too small for an "OL" at D1 level. I was just showing that there are many OL that are 6'2 or below. That for him to put a blanket statement of "too small for D1" is just silly when there are so many who are in D1.

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Re: OC wish they had OL like this...

Post by CoachB@FV » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:08 am

The picture has a little Bob Hoffman York Barbell vibe to it. Does he throw at all? Best of luck in the FB season.

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Post by oldschoolfriar » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:46 am

You also said 20-25% of centers and guards are 6'1 6'2 so the odds are stacked against them.

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Re: OC wish they had OL like this...

Post by 2002tony » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:41 pm

oldschoolfriar wrote:He's too small for D1 football in college maybe D1aa most likely D2
What has been said still proves this statement by you to be wrong, and the odds are stacked against anyone who wants to make it to the NFL, HOWEVER, you would have miscalculated in
oldschoolfriar wrote:You also said 20-25% of centers and guards are 6'1 6'2 so the odds are stacked against them.
this statement also.
Since according to you he is too small to play D1, then there must be a overwhelming majority of D1 players who are taller. With that as your base ( very few in D1 who are 6'2 and below, for there to be 20 to 25 % in the NFL, a player who is 6'2 or below has a higher percentage of a chance to make it to the NFL then all the 6'3 and above players he is being evaluated against. Odds would be more in his favor over all. So I would not think the phrase "stacked against them" applies here at all.

Have a great day... this is a silly thing to be debating over tho..lol...

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Re: OC wish they had OL like this...

Post by Bubba#35 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:12 am

Did this kid go anywhere?

6123456789 just in case.

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