Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Professor Fate » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:11 pm

From Fryer's Tweets, Here's a classy move by Los Alamitos, giving this award to retiring Edison Head Coach Dave White.Image
Make Them Cry Again In 2020

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by longtimeobserver » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:42 pm

Nice gesture from Los Al. I was happy to see that Coach White got a victory in his last game against LosAl.
I am wondering if Edison will still play MD now that Coach White is retiring.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by file3245 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:00 am

Both Edison and Los al offenses struggled. Los al's offense was enemic after the first drive and Edison was missing open passes all over. Seemed like bad play calling and miss execution on both sides. It will be interesting to see how these teams do in the playoffs. Both have an opportunity to make noise in D3. Los al has been off the last two weeks (including Marina)and making tons of mistakes. Edison shut down Laurent. Not sure if it the coaches or players for Los al that have been the problem lately. Great game to watch and congrats to Coach White.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:18 am

Might also be 2 good defenses. Edison was the best Los Al has seen this year, and Los Al held Edison below anyone not named Mater Dei. If anything, those were 2 pretty evenly matched teams offensively and defensively, and a couple special teams plays seemed to be the difference. It was a big stage w/ all the media coverage and the stakes on the line, and a pretty fun atmosphere.

Both D-Lines were very disruptive to the other's offensive rhythm, and both defenses showed different looks throughout the game.

Not following the Marina or the player / coaches problem reference. Yes, there were mistakes, and that happens when you're trying some new stuff. But the Griffins pitched a shutout, the only time Marina was held under 20 pts, and it was a running clock and 40-0 at halftime. Not the same Marina team as last year.

One thing that did clear up is the likely bracket placement in the D3 playoffs. Edison will likely be with Cathedral on one side, and Los Al will be with La Mirada on the other. Now that Sunset league placement has been settled for the most part, I'd expect both teams to be working on getting ready for the playoffs v inflating stat lines over the next 3 weeks.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:11 pm

Had to do a double take on the Marina comment from File3245.

Offense had over 350 yds at half, and held Marina to negative yds until the 2nd / 3rd team D finished the shutout. Even then they only ended up with 24 yds offense.

http://www.ocvarsity.com/articles/yards ... econd.html

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by file3245 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:56 pm

Bick wrote:You're being kind by saying Los Al didn't play particularly well in the first half.

Griffin D was stifling. Marina's OL is huge, but Los Al front 7 was way too fast for them. First unit held Marina to negative yds total offense before giving way to the 2nd unit, and even they finished up with the shutout and just over 20 yds total offense on the night.

I thought Marina's long snapper was one of the best I've seen in a very long time. Reminded me of Nate Williams @ Cypress back in '06.

From reading the OCV write-up, it seems HB was as sloppy on offense v. FV as the Griffins were last night.

Bick,
I was just going off of your comments from the marina game saying your being kind that Los al didn't play very well in the first half or as sloppy as the griffins were etc. marina hasn't won a league game since 2004, not exactly a win to get too excited about. The next 3 games with be a walk in the park for the griffins and then the real season starts for them. They have a legit chance to do something if they can get their offense together

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:39 pm

Roger that File. Misunderstood your comments...apologies.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:14 pm

Newport pretty much locks up at least 3rd taking down HB 34-8. Lowest point total given up by Sailors since last yr season open shutout of Eisenhower, and lowest in league since blanking Marina in 2012.

11/3 showdown v. Los Al @ Vet's likely for 2nd place.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:59 am

Some notes about Friday's Los Al / FV game...

The 62 points Los Al dropped on FV was 14 points more than the Griffins scored v. the Barons in the prior 3 years combined. And this was done with 2 minutes to go in the first half, and the starters sitting on the sideline with less than 4 minutes gone by in the 2nd qtr. 62 points in a half might be a school record. I'll bet MDD knows.

Great to see so many kids get in the game Friday. One of the things I can't stand about a running clock is it limits those kids' opportunities to play...especially when officials take their sweet time about discussing pretty meaningless penalties as the clock ticks away.

The Barons' kids were fighting hard to the very end despite the score. Kishaun Sykes is a fast dude, and only a soph. Better days ahead for them and coach Nolan.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by SK80 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:57 am

Harbor beating Los Al would be shocker of the year. :shock:
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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Sixth Man » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:32 pm

Wow SK80! Calling your shot?

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by SK80 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:37 am

Wow SK80! Calling your shot?

You heard it right here Sixth Dude... \:D/
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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:22 am

Better chance of being the 4th running clock than an upset.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:37 pm

Notes on Los Al v. HB last Friday.

Griffins win 38-0 but from the grumblings about the offense afterward, it almost felt like a loss. Defense was solid, staking the Griffins to a 14-0 lead on back to back pick 6's in the first quarter. HB rushed for about 20 yds total.

HB has just been decimated by injuries and kids quitting. Seems to be a decent enough coaching staff that's been together there for some time now for that type of stuff to be happening. And they've got a couple dudes on defense at the DE spots. Also lost their soph transfer from FV due to a lower leg injury on Friday. Unlike FV the prior week, the body language on the HB sideline wasn't real good.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:52 pm

2 games this week in the Sunset with some significance...

Los Al v Newport Harbor for 2nd / 3rd place. Cole Kinder became the all time and single game rushing leader this year for Newport. Was Max's kid the former record holder?

Marina v. FV...basically Marina's Superbowl. Their best chance in nearly 13 years to get a league win. Calpreps has them winning this 35-31.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:45 pm

D3 Bracket projection

Bracket adjustments keeping teams in same league in different brackets: Edison - Los Al; Cathedral - St Francis; and Oak Hills - Serrano skews a normal ranking. All 8 teams on left are league champs.

La Mirada (1) v. Paso Robles
La Serna v. St Francis
Villa Park v. SJ Hills
Oak Hills (4) v. Los Al

Cathedral (3) v. Newbury Park
Rancho Verde v. Hart
Buena Park v. Palos Verdes
Edison (2) v. Serrano

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by number9 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:01 am

Not sure why you think LA Mirada will play paso when cif has paso basically ranked 12th in the division. La Mirada will get the worst team according to cif as the 1 seed.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by scj60 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:38 am

CIF doesn't use their polls for the power ranking. They use the same formula the used to form the divisions. While I haven't done the math yet I think PR's strength of schedule, league strength, etc. will give it enough points to not be seeded so low. Another candidate I see for the 16th seed is Palos Verde.

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by Bick » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:51 pm

number9 wrote:Not sure why you think LA Mirada will play paso when cif has paso basically ranked 12th in the division. La Mirada will get the worst team according to cif as the 1 seed.
Them being listed as the 2nd "other" team doesn't make them the 12th in the division, otherwise they would have just leapfrogged Newbury Park, who just beat a good Moorpark team, and Los Al, who just shutout Huntington Beach. Their win last week was a 3 TD win over 1-8 Righetti. Assuming they beat Atascadero on Friday, they'll be the 2nd place team in the 2nd weakest league in the division with a 2nd place qualifier. Palos Verdes just lost to Mira Costa for the Bay championship, which I think makes them higher rated than Paso with their 36.9 v. 35.1 calpreps rating. I think it will be close and could easily flip.

The lowest rated, not ranked, team in the playoffs is La Serna. Because they're Del Rio league champs, I don't see them as a #16 seed. Next lowest is 2nd place (assuming Oak Hills beats them Friday) Serrano. But because Oak Hills would be the #4 seed, they have to be on the opposite bracket and play #2 Edison. Next lowest 2nd / 3rd place team was Paso Robles.

What do you have as a bracket?

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Re: Sunset League / Div 3 - 2016

Post by MDDad » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:47 am

If there are no upsets this Friday, this is probably the most likely scenario:

#1 La Mirada (Suburban 1) vs. Palos Verdes (Bay 2)
Buena Park (Freeway 1) vs. La Serna (Del Rio 1)

#4 Oak Hills (Mojave River 1) vs. Los Alamitos (Sunset 2)
St. Francis (Angelus 2) vs. Paso Robles (Pac-5 2)

#2 Edison (Sunset 1) vs. Serrano (Mojave River T2)
Rancho Verde (Inland Valley 1) vs. San Juan Hills (South Coast 2/At-Large)

#3 Cathedral (Angelus 1) vs. Newbury Park (Camino 2)
Villa Park (Crestview 1) vs. Hart (Foothill 2)

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