2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:59 am

If it's a Sunset flavored pool, pretty hard to exclude most of the league, right?

As for running up the score, yeah...for 17 minutes Los Al played football. The 3rd string RB started the game, and the #1 RB had 4 carries total in the game to "pad" his stats. The starting QB threw 7 passes, and the #2 QB took most of the snaps in the 1st half and ran it all but twice. In the 2nd half, the #3 & 4 QB's took all the snaps. Proof positive Los Al was rubbing it in Banning's nose.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by TheFan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:27 am

Bick
1) Sitting next to almost 80 years of coaching experience "lets see if LA bring punt block again" ...and "again" and "again".
Punt "return" with a "force" to kick is a max of 4 rushers, some teams use two or three to one side to force the kick. The rest of the players check fake then focus on blocking for the return. This is football 101, no way to spin out of this Bick by word smithing. So yes Los Al went after the punter with seven up the gut, the two outside guys kept an eye on WR or gunners for fake. That is total crap, its sad to see you defend the lack of sportsmanship.
In regards to Fenton, every time he displays his character I will throw some salt and pepper on it.
2) I never mention play calls or running up the score. I left early. BTW as you know he scripts a lot of his plays and clearly stayed to it in the first half...using both QB's etc...no big deal to me. It was a solid plan.
3) Banning was horrible up front, poorly coached, did not know what back side contain meant, hence Fenton made a living on cut back plays in the first two series. I am not going to mention the player's number from Banning they were attacking. Banning got frustrated and blitzed backers, LA just hooked the end and off to the races. Fenton went right at one corner safety and the FS. He can coach football no doubt, just zero character based on my personal observations, zip, nada...Based on my personal knowledge I would never allow my children to play for him. They would play for Rollo over him.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by TheFan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:36 am

Someone find where I said LA ran up the score, in fact I blamed the score on Banning coaches and the plays they called. I called out Fenton for calling punt block several times. As far as my credibility...it humors me... go ask any coach if bringing seven up the gut is punt block or return? then get back to me. I think it hurts anyone on this board credibility if you cant recognize punt block.

SK and Bick, 42-0 or 62-0...is the same in my book... LA teams are horrible. A good sunset JV team is better than Banning or Rancho Domingues...look at Narbonne getting worked too. Edison JV team would smoke Banning, with the little QB they have. They smoked Oaks JV...So blow out scores don't mean crap, up to both coaches to be smart about it.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:02 pm

TF - read who I was responding to about running up the score.

I saw the tape on every punt. It was the same vanilla "rush" / return each time. 3 backers dropped, 7 came...for 17 minutes of football. Banning made no attempt to block or even chip those guys. It was kind of comical. At each snap, 7 white jerseys ran one way, and 7 ran the other. I've really never seen anything like it. If that makes one a bad sport, then count me in that group as well.

As for playing for him, my kid and a lot of my friends' kids did as well. Clearly you and I see things very differently.
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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by SK80 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:04 pm

wonder why the banning teams even suits up for football if its as bad as you both say.... agree on that!
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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by TheFan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:11 pm

Bick, I agree it was comical. Run the tape when the kid scooped and scored. How many gray shirts were near the kid scoring the TD . As for Banning, it was so bad.. the first punt almost got blocked. Banning coaches did not say a word or change scheme a bit. Plus the punter averaged 17 yards a punt.

BTW I like Los Al's uniforms they looked great with the flag on the top. I heard you cant wear grey in couple years.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:17 pm

There's a LOT I like about Banning. Hell, their band alone is worth the price of admission. They've got really passionate, loyal, prideful fans. I've seen them 4x in the past 6 years - 2 w/ FV & now 2 w/ Los Al.

I don't think TF is putting them down as much as saying most of the OC schools have just gotten significantly better than most of the LA schools. Banning was the #12 team in LA. They schedule up so they can get better. So does Carson.

He's right though. LA as a whole is probably at the level of the PCL now.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:32 pm

TheFan wrote: Bick, I agree it was comical. Run the tape when the kid scooped and scored. How many gray shirts were near the kid scoring the TD . As for Banning, it was so bad.. the first punt almost got blocked. Banning coaches did not say a word or change scheme a bit. Plus the punter averaged 17 yards a punt.

BTW I like Los Al's uniforms they looked great with the flag on the top. I heard you cant wear grey in couple years
I'm pretty sure all 7 were there. Put it this way, the guy who blocked it didn't leave his feet. And at the time, I couldn't tell who blocked it or picked it up. It looked something like The Blob...only this was a fast moving mass of grey that swallowed up the 3 white shirts in front of it before swallowing up the kicker.

Love the jerseys, but reading the numbers from the pressbox was an exercise in futility.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by TheFan » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:39 pm

I think the guy that blocked it was the same guy that scored...If I had to bet a cold one ...he saw the ball kick to his right first

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:44 pm

It was. He was the DPOW for OCVarsity this week.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:20 am

Listening to the Edison / SJ Hills game in the 1st half (7-0 SJH), I would've bet big sums that Edison would be fortunate to come in 3rd place this year. 33-14 final has me singing a different tune back to ambivalence. 9/27 can't come soon enough.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:03 am

Week 3 Results

Name***This Week***Total Pts***Weeks won

2002 Tony***8***48***2
OC Football***11***42***1
Bick***5***36***1
Sixth Man***8***35***0
SK80***5***31***0
Trenchdad***6***29***0
The Fan***One***29***0

Rough week!

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by SK80 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:58 am

=D> "9/27 can't come soon enough." :thumbsup:
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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:52 am

CDM defense really showing something these past 3 games. Shutting down El Toro like that pretty big time. Decent test this week v. San Clemente.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by SK80 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:36 pm

Honestly Bick I am still not sure what to make of it, El Toro is a good football team but their wins are not very impressive as far as whom they have beaten. They torched Trabuco Hills by scoring 56 points but couldn't really muster anything outside one play against CDM. Palos Verdes and Lakewood had bigger guys but CDM shut them both down as well. So yes San Clemente will be another story. Either way the domination on "D" is a good sign for an inexperienced and undersized squad. Coaching and tenacity is a factor. Being a young team on both sides of the ball I expect some growing pains and lumps this year and it will really be a question of what the ceiling is and how fast they can get better or reach for it.
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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Sixth Man » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:30 pm

I don’t think that these teams have time to practice more than one or two things on special teams. Let’s say 6 hours of practice and a walk through is all they get. They probably don’t practice more than one punt return right. And certainly they have to compete on offense, defense, and special teams for at least a half. 49-0 at half. 49-13 final. Doesn’t sound like anyone was trying to run it up to me. There are a heck of a lot of coaches that put their starting defense back in to preserve the shutout. It doesn’t sound like LA did that. Some of you guys just want to criticize But you don’t look at the big picture imho.

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:35 pm

Week 4

FV @ Adelanto (+21.5)
Los Al @ Carson (+31.5)
Marina @ HB (-10.5)
CDM @ San Clemente (+6.5)
NH @ Santa Monica (+10.5)
Servite @ Villa Park (+16.5)
Westlake @ Moorpark (-6.5)
Cathedral @ Bishop Amat (-13.5)
Redlands EV @ Norco (-13.5)
Mission Viejo @ Upland (+2.5)

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by SK80 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:39 pm

Are you F(N) me +6.5 SC!
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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by Bick » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:49 pm

Calpreps has CDM winning 41-28

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Re: 2018 Sunset League/DII/DIII

Post by SK80 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:48 pm

Lord J*sus :shock:
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