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Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:54 pm

Watched the Bosco v Bosco battle (Don Bosco Prep at St John Bosco) on Prime Ticket replay (who does a great job with these local HS telecasts). No real need to start a new thread, and this seems like an appropriate existing thread to discuss 2019 SJB Football lol.

This 5 out of state team-schedule was billed as a tough slate, but its looking like 5 running clock wins.

Not sure it’s a good thing for Bosco to not be challenged until mid-October. These are arguably the worst DeMatha and Don Bosco Prep teams in at least a decade. Teams like Liberty and Mililani could be down 30 before they score, if they score.

SJB will also easily dispose of Good Counsel, DeMatha’s less talented league rival, before getting to scout Mater Dei on their own field the next night, as the Monarchs take on an infinitely tougher opponent in Team Voltron, Saint Frances Academy.

Barring a gigantic upset next week, SFA v. MD will be a matchup of teams currently ranked 1 and 2 in the country (in at least one poll).



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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:27 pm

As far as the football in this matchup, Bruin commit Nathaniel “Sandbeast” Jones did not start, again, although he played, and per the stats he recorded 4 carries. Still waiting to see the flashes we saw during his sophomore season.

Former Friar Jabari Bates definitely started this one, and again looked like the best of their three sophomore, wafer thin tailbacks, including busting an explosive 50-plus yard run down to the 5 yard line — which was called back due to a hold by Matayo Uiagalelei.

Soph OL Earnest Greene again started this one on the bench, but entered on the fourth play (a Kris Hutson fumble) after an injury to Logan Bednar, which looked like a bad rolled ankle. Greene was already reportedly dealing with an injury, and counting Drake Metcalf’s banged up hand, this OL is really going through the injury woes early in the season.

On a positive note, Big Max Gibbs started again at LG, and actually looked nimble and aggressive in this one, after bumbling and stumbling through the DeMatha game. As he gets his 6-6 frame down to a manageable weight, that kid has very high potential. Though some have suggested he could be the odd man out, Che Womack is actually developing into a reliable senior leader on that line — which is important because center was a key weakness for SJB in 2018.

The OL chemistry and health (hopefully Bednar is not seriously hurt) is the key to this offense, as Mater Dei and Eric Johnson EXPOSED the weak links in the Bosco OL in order to win last year’s CIF title game. The key to this team reaching its potential this year will be keeping #5 comfortable in the pocket, and/or DJ improving his ability to handle pressure without panicking, to still make critical throws, and to not turn the ball over.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:49 pm

Braves 4 WR group (Loya Hutson Collins McDuffie) rivals any group in the nation, including the set down in Santa Ana. Collins drops as many balls as he catches, but he’s so explosive at 6-3. Dropped a TD on the first drive when he had the corner beat by 5 yards, then came back to catch basically the same 9 route a series later — although Bosco got away with having almost their entire OL 5 yards downfield on an RPO fake.

I wonder if Notre Dame transfer (2018 check in) Collins was one of those free agents who “called Bosco and begged to join the team” that we’ve heard about? I digress lol. I’m sure Kevin Rooney and the Knights don’t need him.

Hutson and Loya are so quick and shifty, they have drawn probably 3 PI penalties each, per game.

DBP didn’t help themselves playing WAY too much cover 0 (man, no safety), and essentially giving D.J. easy touchdowns to Collins and Hutson early, then to McDuffie on a simple stop route and run after catch. The corners could use a little help, maybe?? One of the only plays they made all night was a pick 6 off backup QB Isaiah Saldana (who entered the game with 2m to go in THE FIRST HALF), caught off the back of LT Drake Metcalf, who got in the way of a screen pass to McDuffie.

Might have to wait until league play to see someone that can play competent coverages and force SJB to run the ball consistently. You would hope Jones is back by to full health by league play, to help these skinny sophomores avoid taking a lot of hits.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:16 pm

Defensively for SJB — a combination of soph Nate Burrell and senior Jaelen Williams played the stand up DE/OLB (the old Pete Carroll “Elephant position”). Apparently they’ve been coached to play that spot while doing a bodybuilder flex with their arms pre-snap lol. Williams has a nice spin move off the edge. Braves looking for some production from the duo, replacing Bosco all time sack leader and Princeton freshman Cole Aubrey (JSerra transfer).

Same starters defensively: DL—Burrell (could be the rare 3 year defensive starter who actually started out at Bosco), Carson transfer soph DT Jairus Satele next to USC DT commit Kobe Pepe and senior DE Matt Jordan (rotating with fellow senior Gabe Allen). Pepe and Satele (impact transfer, another potential 3 yr starter) are squatty but quick, have looked very good the first two games.

LBs—Gaoteote (Vegas Faith Lutheran/IMG) and Danny Lockhart (Redlands Citrus Valley). Gaoteote is a junkyard dog. Still is learning where to line up, but is making 10 tackles per game on accident. Lockhart is a solid, 5-10 HS linebacker.

CB—Seniors and first time starters Josh Alford and James Smith (UW Husky commit) have both played well in the first 2 contests, but haven’t really been tested, and probably won’t be until league. Safeties Kourt Williams (Sr Ohio St commit), senior SS and UCLA commit Jake Newman and senior deep safety Jon Jon Vaughns have all looked like the major D1 prospects they are. Vaughns in particular has gotten so much better this offseason, which is impressive given he is a legitimate high MLB draft prospect, and also played in the Area Code Games and travel baseball this offseason.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:47 pm

A lot of kids in the DL rotation again, incl Williams, Allen, the other Vegas FLHS transfer in 300+ lb Zeke Noma’aea, Sr Noa Masui (transfer from Redondo), and soph Malachi Finau. Noma’aea was supposedly a throw in transfer according to some, but he and Satele spilt reps in the first half almost evenly. He will be a factor for the Braves D, as will the basketball power forward-looking Masui, once he gets a handle on what he is actually doing for Chris King.

OLu package deal transfer and senior Navy commit AJ Gatto getting even more reps at LB in the DBP game, including a first half pick 6. I bet he was also one of those transfers that called “asking to come to Bosco” lol. Fellow transfer LBs Jason Gagnon (Huntington Beach) and Benny Lockhart (Redlands CVHS - the Lockhart kids are so small for LBs) also clearly in the regular LB rotation. And Cerritos Gahr transfer and USC Rising Stars camp LB MVP Aaron Simpson isn’t even eligible yet!

150lb sophomore Tayvion Beasley is the guy behind Alford/Smith at this point, along with ANOTHER TRANSFER as a sub package/nickel DB (more on that below). Sophomore Jaxson Harley and senior Matt Columbo as depth at safety.

This defense is still meshing 9 new starters (including a whole new front 6 and both corners) and a glut of transfers together, and some kids look like they don’t know the scheme or are just playing on instinct. But some of those instincts are from elite recruits (Gaoteote). Bosco DC Chris King told Fox analyst Greg Biggins that Gaoteote is arguably the most talented linebacker Bosco has ever had. You’ve got to love homegrown talent like that.

The group is collectively so fast at every spot, including DL, that it’s made up for any mistakes so far. Talent is not lacking, but will they get exposed by teams that actually know their scheme and have matching talent (MD JSerra, even Servite)?

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:58 pm

Bosco unveiling YET ANOTHER out of state transfer, DB Malachi Gatewood, transferring in for his senior season from Chandler ARIZONA after spending his junior season in Daphne, ALABAMA! (had to add Daphne HS here; hard to keep up with all the states where these SJB transfers have played in before arriving at Bosco).

Not sure if this kid played v DeMatha at all (don’t remember seeing him). But he definitely played significant nickel/sub package snaps v DBP. Geez, maybe Terry Bullock brought him back on one of those unofficial visits to see Nick Saban (or Herm Edwards) with select Bosco prospects?! Do they even need more DBs? I mean, Mark Ard already went back to Santa Margarita because he was third string at corner and wasn’t going to crack the lineup as a senior.

What about the young kids they need to develop, like Beasley (soph with USC offer) and Dillon Kendle-Towles?? Does Negro even care about his middle school recruits? Trust The Process lol

Who else are they going to unveil next week? We know Aaron Simpson is going to be eligible for league, but who else is Bosco stashing on the sidelines?

A DB transfer from Arizona via Alabama, a Nose Guard from Vegas, a Navy linebacker recruit, and a 6-6 DLineman plucked from little Redondo Union High, 4 seniors joining the Braves for a run at the title and these kids don’t even start. Not to mention the superstar, USC-bound junior linebacker, from Vegas via IMG. Embarrassment of riches in Bellflower. #destinationbosco
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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:48 pm

any out of state transfers MD has received since Rollo blew up the program after the 2011 season? or all have been CA transfers?

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby credofriar » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:29 pm

Good council is a top 20 team in the country. Highly doubt bosco can just show up and win that one. Looks like dematha came back strong with a good win last week.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby BoscoBandWagon » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:34 pm

8 out of the 11 defensive starters at Bosco have only attended Bosco, including 7 four year seniors. Accordingly to RedPill everyone is new and have no idea what to do and just runs around with no coaching?

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:25 pm

Lol this math can be done a lot of ways, especially since there is no rule in football that only starters play, and since Bosco in particular plays several of its backups just as much as it’s starters (AS NOTED ABOVE).

The 22 kids that Bosco defensive coordinator Chris King has played the most snaps on defense in the first two games includes 9 transfers (excluding mop up duty). I would imagine that is among the highest numbers in the country for any HS defensive “two-deep.” That includes two starting linebackers, the three primary backup linebackers, and 3 out of 4 defensive tackles in the DLine rotation. Since we are doing the math, that’s 8 out of the primary 9 players that have played in the middle of the Braves 2019 defense (DT/LB) that are transfers. When Aaron Simpson gets transfer clearance, that will be 9 out of 10.

As stated above, King has himself already characterized Gaoteote — a kid that’s at his 3rd HS this calendar year, who has been on campus for just over a month, and who has visibly had trouble figuring out where to line up for plays in the first two wins, but who has nonetheless been borderline dominant — as possibly the best LB in school history. Maybe, just maybe, that’s because the kid has unbelievable football instincts? Imagine where his play will be next year if he returns to Bosco, or even at the end of this season (with King’s coaching).

If we just want to take the 8 “Bosco only” starters mentioned above, 6 of them have never been regular starters before this season (although I would certainly expect and hope that they know the scheme by now).

Speaking of which, wow, that is extremely creative wordplay there, magically transforming statements that “the defense is meshing 9 new starters” and “some transfers don’t look like they know the scheme yet (and yet it’s still working)” into “the 4-year seniors have no idea what to do and are running around with no coaching!”

I guess sharing some transfer facts is bringing out the spin doctors in Brave Nation? Sheesh lol

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby BigBosco » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:58 pm

Good info on the transfers and how they are working out RedPill. It's hard to keep up on the xfers and who's playing vs not playing.

Clearly transfers are here to stay given that the CIF member schools decided NOT to make any substantive changes to the transfer rules when they recently debated this topic.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:55 am

ya, I don't see LB Poly becoming a National Power again anytime soon, Bosco has now gotten the athletes that previously would have attended LB Poly, one thing for sure, MD has lured the better talent than Bosco has, ever since MD and Bosco became the national powers several seasons ago.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby RedPillWonderland » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:42 pm

What an awesome homecoming tonight for St John Bosco transfers and former Las Vegas Faith Lutheran High School players M’aa Gaoteote (LB) and Zeke Noma’aea (DL), playing against Henderson (NV) Liberty in the “Polynesian Classic.”

I’m sure they’ll have a lot of family and friends in the crowd, which could include their buddy and former teammate — senior Faith Lutheran LB Hunter Kaupiko, who Bosco lured to Bellflower in March, only to see him return to Vegas shortly thereafter. The Braves almost had a Faith Lutheran transfer trio to match their acquisitions of the Redlands Citrus Valley trio (the Lockharts) and Orange Lutheran trio (Loya, Gatto, Marta) of offseason free agents, but one out of each of those transfer package deals has since left the school. Package deals just don’t work out sometimes, especially if one of the group realizes they are buried on the depth chart.

However, if SJB was forced to choose only one of these talented Nevada transfer LBs to replace seniors graduated from last year’s CIF runner up (one is totally unfair I know), I think the Braves plucked the better of the two Faith Lutheran stars.

Although Kaupiko made an all state team in Nevada last season while Gaoteote only made honorable mention, Gaoteote is obviously rated much higher and is a USC commit, and if he actually finishes high school at Bosco, the Braves will have gotten two years out of him (and maybe two championship rings?) instead of just getting Kaupiko’s senior year. WIN WIN!

I’m sure it will be an emotional return to their former hometown and home state tonight for Gaoteote and Noma’aea, as well as a bit emotional (maybe a different emotion?) for their former teammates and coaches at Faith Lutheran, watching them play for the nation’s #3 team. FLHS hosts Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro tomorrow afternoon in another good “Poly Classic” matchup.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby Amack001 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:59 am

Ever hear any word on Moses Sepulona and Sefita Tupe (Non-injuries)? not looking to gossip, just curious if they’re going to play this year for MD (or any team for that matter)…

Maxpreps still shows Sefita on MD’s 2019 roster (hasn’t played yet to my knowledge), but no Moses (although, his number #28 is still open).

https://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/m ... nta-ana,ca)/football/roster.htm

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:48 am

it will be interesting to see who replaces DJ and Bryce Young at QB, good chance one of them will be transfers.

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Re: Transfer News? It’s that time of year again!

Postby KuppRunneth » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:04 pm

Bosco's QB transfer will be a big one. Highly recruited but overrated in my opinion (for the college level).

You know aint no chance Clarkson sticks around at Bosco.

Safe to say both school will be getting a big time QB transfer (senior).

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