Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:05 am

dont be that guy wrote:So, according to your clearly unbiased reporting here, La Habra were simply innocent victims. The parents were respectful and quiet and even did a fine job of running on the field to STOP the fighting? Okay, sure. I'll wait for the video to see for myself.

I have been to enough 7v7 Tournaments to know that it has become the AAU of football; scum of the earth parents talking trash to other patents and opposing players. Players talking trash after every catch or deflection. It has become bottom-of-the-barrel entertainment for the "Al Bundy" dads of the world. It has outlived it's purpose, it should just go back to teams having 7v7 scrimmages to work on their passing games (and defense.) These tournaments are becoming an embarrassment.
The parents on both sides ran into the field to try to break it up. Even some of the Bosco parents did the same. Some people saw a Cathedral parent push a La Habra kid, but I did not see it. What I did see was this video in twitter:
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Go full screen. You can see clearly how a Cathedral player hit an adult repeatedly from behind before he runs away. Don’t tell me about the length of the video or some other stupid rationalization. This clearly was assault. It was intentional. It’s also inexcusable. Likely illegal. That kid should be kicked off if the team.

It’s funny how someone here obsesses about La Habra’s parents and ignores the violence that occurred in front of his face. What’s even funnier is I was there too. There was a lot of chirping between parents of both schools. Not toward the players. I may have missed it, but one Cathedral dad screamed **** to the refs the entire last drive. Odd that this guy didn’t hear that even though he was five feet away from him too. Sounds like he has an ax to grind with La Habra.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:00 am

KuppRunneth wrote:i was sitting with the La Habra parents for the last 10 minutes of the game. Actually 5 feet from Clark Phillips Dad.

The parents were awful. Not him, necessarily, but the others in the bleachers.

I don't care what Cathedral did, no parents should EVER yell/taunt at any kid from the stands. Literally calling them soft, wet, garbage, word for "kitty cat". It was disgusting. The parents were getting in the kids heads and the loss that occurred on the last play of the game was the tipping point.

Everybody was at fault, refs, parents/kids from both sides. But i was with the La Habra side and I was stunned at the yelling that was being done at the kids.

Look, I came in the last 10 minutes of the game so I didnt see what was going on for the entire game, and I know it was chippy, but the parents were just terrible.
So let me fill you in on what happened before the last five minutes you were there. You’re a Bosco dad. Your game had just ended. That’s all that walked over by La Habra’s side. The Cathedral parents were only 10 feet away and done in the same bleachers. So it wasn’t just La Habra fans you stood near.

Cathedral got into a fight with a different team the week before at the Rams passing tournament. They also were taunting Bucanon in their first game.

During warmups before our game, their kids made fun of a special needs kid on La Habra's team. In front of their coaches mind you. Those coaches didn’t say or do anything.

Once the game started, both the kids and their parents were taunting La Habra. Our kids responded, as did our parents toward their sidelines.

Yes we have a LB who is too aggressive with his two hand touches. But he’s never hurt anyone and he wasn’t in on a single play in this game.

The Cathedral kids were doing that very thing to us with the aggressive pushes. Not a big deal. It is football after all.

Now I was standing next to the stands where Clark was sitting in the end zone. So the same location as you. I did not hear a single La Habra parent yell toward a kid any of the things you claimed up until the final drive.

There was a really dirty play where a LH wr ran a deep post route. He went up for the ball. The safety came over and lowered his shoulder into the kid when he was coming back down. The cb hit him from behind. The kid was essentially tackled and laid hurt on the ground.Two refs threw flags on the play.

LH parents were then yelling to throw the Cathedral kid out of the game. One of the Cathedral kids then started to taunt a LH dad who was sitting by the yellow tape. That dad stood up and started yelling at the kid. He should not have done so.

Now a Cathedral dad who was talking trash to our kids and our parents started to scream out bulksh!t to the refs the entire final drive. Funny how you didn’t mention that piece of info.

LH goes on to win on a TD pass to end the game. The LH teams runs out to celebrate. A LH dB starts to clap in the face of the Cathedral kid who talked the most trash. So the Cathedral kid pushed the LH kid. The LH kid pushed him back. The Cathedral kid then punches the LH kid and that’s how the fighting started.

Now your pitiful attempt to excuse away the violence by placing it at the LH parents feet is an absurd stretch. Are they perfect? Hell no. Are they to blame? Hell no.

During the melee, the Cathedral kids ran over to where the LH kids were celebrating. Why would LH kids look to fight when they just won the game?

Remember that special needs kid that’s on the LH team who was mocked earlier? Well some POS Cathedral kid punched him in the back of his head. He had to be helped off the field because he was hurt.

Another dad jumped on his son who was pushed to the ground. As he laid over his kid, another Cathedral kid kicked him in the face. The dad had a bad cut and he had to go get stitches.

And then there was this:
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Go full screen. The kid who started the fight ran in and punched a parent on the back of his head 2-3 times before he runs away. The video speaks for itself. That’s assault.

Your concerns about five minutes of LH parents overly reacting to the other team is the wrong place to focus your entire comments. You should have asked what the context was. You could have described the Cathedral parents were saying. Instead, you rather seem to have an ax to grind with LH.

Bottom line is Cathedral started the violence. Yes some La Habra kids ended up winning some of the fights, but they were acting in self defense.

But it didn’t end there. Once the field was cleared out, some of the LH parents were sitting near a few of the Cathedral dads. Those dads said they were going to wait in the parking lot and jump some of us when we left. We had to get a HB police officer to escort us out of the school. And sure enough this guy and a few others were waiting by an exit to the parking lot.

Cathedral’s coaches have lost control of their kids and parents. They’re a hot mess.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by hit the lights » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:17 am

Triple B,
I was there too and KUPP is straight up wrong! If anything was said it was a couple parents chirping back and forth on time of QB holding the ball, and the bad language was coming from Cathedral ,,, same dad or whoever he was for two straight games / Buchanan. Where this clown was fighting with two women from Buchanan about the same stuff.
Just big loud mouths that cant take a L! Obviously , the Cathedral kids act like what they see daily at home and on the practice field. Why do these kids always think they need to run their mouths and play like this is 11 on 11. ACT LIKE YOUVE BEEN THERE BEFORE!! One thing is for sure , La Habra kids wont get punked and wont back down, which explains why they found a way to win and put a fork in the phantoms. Its clear, they dont know how to lose with grace.
Its too bad that some parents were assaulted and cheap shotted, which is clear in the video! Sorry KUPP, you trippin boo! :bonk:

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:35 am

hit the lights wrote: Triple B,
I was there too and KUPP is straight up wrong! If anything was said it was a couple parents chirping back and forth on time of QB holding the ball, and the bad language was coming from Cathedral ,,, same dad or whoever he was for two straight games / Buchanan. Where this clown was fighting with two women from Buchanan about the same stuff.
Just big loud mouths that cant take a L! Obviously , the Cathedral kids act like what they see daily at home and on the practice field. Why do these kids always think they need to run their mouths and play like this is 11 on 11. ACT LIKE YOUVE BEEN THERE BEFORE!! One thing is for sure , La Habra kids wont get punked and wont back down, which explains why they found a way to win and put a fork in the phantoms. Its clear, they dont know how to lose with grace.
Its too bad that some parents were assaulted and cheap shotted, which is clear in the video! Sorry KUPP, you trippin boo!
I can only report what i saw and heard. I said everyone was at fault. It was a bad look. I mentioned i arrived with less than 10 minutes to go and wasn't paying too much to the play on the field. Had no idea it was a chippy game. Literally the first play i watched was the 2nd to last play where the La Habra receiver got clocked going up the middle. Looked like it might have been the last play of the game. Then the flag came out and they had one more shot, which they went and scored. But before all of that, the La Habra parents were barking at Cathedral kids. Regardless of what was happening before that, they were barking at the kids, calling them all kind of names. Cathedral kids were turning around and flexing at these parents. In fact, one of the kids that was flexing was the one that, on video, sucker punched (twice) one of the La Habra family members. Looked like a grandpa. I also have video but refuse to post it

I'm not excusing anything Cathedral did. I'm just saying, for someone who arrived with less than 10 minutes to go, i was stunned at the language that was being used in the stands. I didnt even turn around because i was so embarassed. Didnt even realize Clark Phillips pop was literally sitting 2 people over from me until the fight was over. They all came back and that was the first time I even laid eyes on the La Habra fans behind me. I was part of the group that grabbed Chad Johnson, while everything was going on, to prevent him for making any mistakes.

its unfortunate you're saying I blame the La Habra side. I blame everybody. But i wasn't there to see what happened from the Cathedral side. There was nothing i said that was wrong. I just think, in these 7v7 tourneys, the parents, in general, are just awful.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:06 am

So you saw the fight, how it started, and you had to have heard their parents. Yet you curiously fail to note any of it.

I do agree that the LH parent who had the kid flexing and taunting him is the same one I said earlier who was getting into it with the kid. That was a mistake. But that was the only thing I saw directed at a kid by a LH parent. I did hear some shouting to kick the kid out who took the cheap shot near the end of the game, maybe some things were said at that point. I know I heard bad things all game from the Cathedral parents. And that includes those last five minutes.

The far worse part occurred by Cathedral. Sure their parents were taunting our kids and getting into it with LH parents, That’s almost becoming the norm at these things. Their kids, however, were way out of control and their coaches didn’t seem to care.

Teasing a special needs kid before the game, taking cheap shots during the game, throwing the first punch, clearing of their sideline to rush the LH players, sucker punching that special needs kid, kicking a dad in the face when he was on the ground causing a large cut that needed stitches, sucker punching a parent, and then threatening to jump parents in the parking lot. Real classy.

But yeah, focus on the few minutes at the end of the game, ignore the Cathedral parent screaming bull the entire final drive or the crap show before or after those five minutes.
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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:14 am

HTL, the LH kids definitely didn’t back down. They showed true grit staying composed and scoring despite all of the BS by the Cathedral team.

To do it without Clark Phillips and Mason West impressed me. Add in the great job this team has done the last two passing tournaments and you can tell this is going to be a good year for La Habra football.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:58 am

TripleB wrote: So you saw the fight, how it started, and you had to have heard their parents. Yet you curiously fail to note any of it.

I do agree that the LH parent who had the kid flexing and taunting him is the same one I said earlier who was getting into it with the kid. That was a mistake. But that was the only thing I saw directed at a kid by a LH parent. I did hear some shouting to kick the kid out who took the cheap shot near the end of the game, maybe some things were said at that point. I know I heard bad things all game from the Cathedral parents. And that includes those last five minutes.

The far worse part occurred by Cathedral. Sure their parents were taunting our kids and getting into it with LH parents, That’s almost becoming the norm at these things. Their kids, however, were way out of control and their coaches didn’t seem to care.

Teasing a special needs kid before the game, taking cheap shots during the game, throwing the first punch, clearing of their sideline to rush the LH players, sucker punching that special needs kid, kicking a dad in the face when he was on the ground causing a large cut that needed stitches, sucker punching a parent, and then threatening to jump parents in the parking lot. Real classy.

But yeah, focus on the few minutes at the end of the game, ignore the Cathedral parent screaming bull the entire final drive or the crap show before or after those five minutes.
Go back and look at my posts. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd one. I clearly made not of this. Perhaps you didnt read it?

Nowhere was I saying Cathedral was innocent in this. Nowhere.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by Daforno » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:50 am

I know this is passing league!
BUT
How does MD ( with a sophmore QB against Bosco's first string defense ) beat Bosco with Bosco's ALL WORLD QB?

I know "IT DOESN"T MEAN ANYTHING" it's only passing league but Bosco has to win that game. Does MD's offense get so many guys open that Bosco can't cover, I looked at the highlights and the MD kid looked like he had an average arm at best YET Bosco can't stop them?
OR
Is MD's defense so good that the Bosco superman couldn't find open guys, OR did Bosco"s offense not have enough variety to get guys open?

NO excuse Bosco gas to win that game and they didn't!!!
Does MD simply have Bosco's number? 2 CIF championships in a row and 4 Battle of the Beach wins?
Just asking

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Post by KuppRunneth » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:22 pm

Daforno wrote: know this is passing league!
BUT
How does MD ( with a sophmore QB against Bosco's first string defense ) beat Bosco with Bosco's ALL WORLD QB?

I know "IT DOESN"T MEAN ANYTHING" it's only passing league but Bosco has to win that game. Does MD's offense get so many guys open that Bosco can't cover, I looked at the highlights and the MD kid looked like he had an average arm at best YET Bosco can't stop them?
OR
Is MD's defense so good that the Bosco superman couldn't find open guys, OR did Bosco"s offense not have enough variety to get guys open?

NO excuse Bosco gas to win that game and they didn't!!!
Does MD simply have Bosco's number? 2 CIF championships in a row and 4 Battle of the Beach wins?
Just asking
It was baffling. Like you said, he had average arm at best. AT BEST. BUT, he was very accurate and was able to get the ball into small windows. I was stunned and impressed at the same time.

I'll say it again, Bosco's secondary is not that good.

Bosco had a TD taken off the board (Hutson in the end zone on 4th down - he was in). But they were taking too many deep shots instead of chipping away.

Bosco has MAJOR issues. Doesn't feel like its less than 2 months away before their first game.

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Post by dont be that guy » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:34 pm

I know this is passing league!

"IT DOESN"T MEAN ANYTHING"

I shortened it down for you. Both games were won in the trenches last year (and the years before).

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Post by Daforno » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:04 pm

Oh I get it, the trenches, so why is Bosco wasting their time with a 5 star Clemson QB and MD with an SC recruit when clearly as you say it's the trenches.

Somebody better call Clemson and USC and tell them!

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Post by credofriar » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:53 pm

Wasting their time? I don’t understand that. Trinity league games are won and lost in the trenches. But doesn’t mean qb play is not important. But in a passing league game you get like 3.5 secs to throw. In last years finals dj had like 1.5 secs to throw because of the md defensive line.
I remember last year bosco lost to mission in the semis and everyone said bosco would not be good because they lost chad Johnson. Well in the season mission lost to San Clemente while a few weeks later bosco beat San Clemente by 50.
This is mater dei’s 4th straight title. That means they won the battle of beach title in 2015 & 2016 but didn’t win cif. Cif finals in 15 went to centennial who is TERRIBLE in passing league and 16 went to bosco who also is not very good in passing league typically.
With that being said I think we can match up well vs bosco in the fall.
Jserra looks incredibly over hyped.

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Post by watchersince68 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:40 am

You guys are just not savvy enough. Bosco clearly tanked the passing league game. Since these games mean nothing, the thinking was to make MD overconfident when they meet again. A good strategy, considering how tough it is to beat a good team three times in one season.

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Post by templar83 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:04 pm

credofriar wrote: With that being said I think we can match up well vs bosco in the fall.
Jserra looks incredibly over hyped.
Some might opine these two statements call into question your football acumen....

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Post by aberamsey » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:16 pm

The annual process of judging the value of a team based on 7 on 7. Good luck vs. JSerra in the regular season. I'll tell you right now they are properly hyped.

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Post by hocyouthguy » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:41 pm

watchersince68 wrote:You guys are just not savvy enough. Bosco clearly tanked the passing league game. Since these games mean nothing, the thinking was to make MD overconfident when they meet again. A good strategy, considering how tough it is to beat a good team three times in one season.
smh... Some people find a conspiracy under every bush. No way in you-know-where DJ et al tanked that on purpose. No, DJ didn't need the Elite 11, but he's sure not sticking around for 7v7 over Elite 11 just to lose on purpose to MD. Could it be that MD is simply that good? Jeff Fisher thinks so, and every poll out there has MD and Bosco within one or two places of one another.
Had Hutson's TD been confirmed, Bosco loses by one TD. At most I'll give you that they may have been trying out different schemes in preparation for the season, but no way they tanked on purpose.

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Post by hocyouthguy » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:44 pm

aberamsey wrote:The annual process of judging the value of a team based on 7 on 7. Good luck vs. JSerra in the regular season. I'll tell you right now they are properly hyped.
Servite will need all that luck and then some vs JSerra. Servite is in much greater danger of being overhyped than JSerra, that's for sure.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:12 pm

JSerra is extremely good. Scary good.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by Sweetness34 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:12 pm

Jserra will be good, but wasn't as impressed I thought I would be. They seem to lack overall speed on offense with the exception of Chris Street. Defensively, they looked slower than last year. Genova certainly bulked up and they are playing converted QBs at OLB and at FS.. The safeties will be their achilles heel.

I expect them road grade teams with their newly acquired huge line.. ball control and let their run game set up their passing game. They won't be an air it out team with Street, and Green.

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Post by watchersince68 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:13 pm

hocyouthguy wrote:smh... Some people find a conspiracy under every bush. No way in you-know-where DJ et al tanked that on purpose. No, DJ didn't need the Elite 11, but he's sure not sticking around for 7v7 over Elite 11 just to lose on purpose to MD. Could it be that MD is simply that good? Jeff Fisher thinks so, and every poll out there has MD and Bosco within one or two places of one another.
Had Hutson's TD been confirmed, Bosco loses by one TD. At most I'll give you that they may have been trying out different schemes in preparation for the season, but no way they tanked on purpose.

Sorry Hocyou
It was Sarcasm, my bad.

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