Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by aberamsey » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:23 pm

I agree with the sentiment regarding JSerra's speed offense, although the receiver core from last year was hardly a group of speedsters, more great size with adequate speed. McDaniel is a speed upgrade on Shimomura, although the question is whether or not he can match his versatility. New Zealand Williams is faster than both McClain and Luckett, but clearly lacks the experience. Burnett is a big target, but young and lacks explosion. Morrison is a big upgrade at tight end, if they can get the OC to throw to the tight end. Champion Johnson is potentially a real factor at tight end as well. They aren't going to beat teams with their passing game, it's going to be the Green and Street show. Booty is very mobile and will surprise people with his ability to get out of the pocket. The offensive line is fully of verified road graders.

Defensively I disagree. The overall speed on defense is probably better overall, the big question is how will they replace senior experience. The safeties are young but very fast. Duncan will be strong at one corner, the other corner is still up in the air. At outside linebacker both Genova and Te'o will be a handful. Yes, two converted QB's, but both are great athletes. The biggest challenge on defense will be replacing Nielsen.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:54 pm

I forgot about the big TE Morrison. Was he the transfer from Santa Margarita? Kid is gonna be a HANDFUL to tackle.

I caught a couple of JSerra coaches look at each other and giggle with joy when he caught the ball and turned up the field.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:14 pm

La Habra scores more points and lost by less against MD in the Los Al tournament (with Bryce) than Bosco did at Edison. Just not acceptable.

Even with the caveat of the trenches matter, Bosco still has the most loaded team in the country offensively.

I love how Bosco fans say it doesn’t matter, they don’t care, trenches are important, it’s about our blitz packages, blah blah blah. You obviously want to win these things. These are competitors in a competition.

No excuse.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by dont be that guy » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:16 pm

"La Habra scores more points and lost by less against MD in the Los Al tournament (with Bryce) than Bosco did at Edison. Just not acceptable."

Um, what are you talking about? What does LH have to do with this? If you are saying that La Habra is a better flag football team than Bosco? OK, great, but all that proves is that 7 on 7 is irrelevant, Bosco/MD would be 50+ favorites vs. LH in real football.

Not even a Bosco/MD fan. 7 on 7 truly doesn't mean anything.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by Daforno » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:58 pm

You keep saying that, then why bother to come?

Better to utilize your time to lift and really get those "trench guys" in the weight room because as you say that is all that matters.

Hell a guy could blow out a knee in these meaningless encounters.

You can't tell me that the Bosco staff didn't want to beat MD!!! You always want your rival to feel he is just not as good as you, believe me this game meant something!

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by BoscoBandWagon » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:35 pm

The good ole PASSING LEAGUE debate.

Bosco is not good in passing league, they never have been. Since Negro has been at Bosco the have been in at least 15+ tournaments and have only won 1. The never won the redondo tournament, never won the san juan hills tournament, etc...
In fact my guess would be I cant think of a time they beat MD is passing league even once.
I know in 2015 they lost to MD in the San Juan Hills Gunslinger Tourney. That season Bosco beat the pants of MD with the St. Browns even being up at one point 35-0 over the monarchs (or there abouts)

I guarantee the bosco coaches did not "tank" the game on purpose. They want their guys to compete. But I doubt they really "strategized" the game.

Another thing to look at is how much emphasis a team puts on 7on7. I know after talking to a coach this entire summer bosco has not thrown against another team in a 2-way or 4-way 7on7 "friendly" game. MD on the other hand has multiple teams come to their campus every thursday evening during the summer to play tshirt football.

Those of us that follow the 7on7 clubs know many MD starters that are on the Ground Zero passing league team that goes around the nation and plays in tournaments. Most other starters play for other squads.
While at bosco the 7 starting defensive players that start a passing league game only one played on a club 7on7 team. All 3 starting safeties Williams, Vaughns and Newman do not play 7on7, nor did their backers.
Nor does their starting QB DJ...(no club 7on7)
Meanwhile Davies, Davis, Hunter, etc.. travel the country to play 7on7.

MD won. Bottom line. With the starting QB not even playing. But after the tournament talking to the coaches, they did seem very pleased especially after the terrible showing in the Los Al tournament.

As for the dork talking about the la habra-md score vs the bosco-md score you must not have known that bosco beat la habra 28-7 that same day MD beat them by less..... LOL what a stupid arguement.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by cruiser » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:51 am

Well, I know it's just a passing tourney but come on man, you have a soph to be,that has never been
anywhere near a varsity game only frosh games, throws weird some say, playing the whole tourney as the starter against good/great defense secondary's, beats the #1 pro style prep QB with people say have- one of the best
group of prep receivers in the state,maybe nation - I mean,ya; it's only a passing tourney but why would the Bosco
HC say, there would be a party at his HB house if they beat MD in the final?

You bet, teams are playing to win in these touney's - for pride, to say I gotcha this time, prestige until next
time, etc. You're kidding yourself if you think Bosco did not want to beat MD in the final. You can make
happy faces and say you are pleased with the showing but deep inside my friend, the coaches and players
ain't thinking that...


...on a side note, I guess some of the MD posters and others FB posters found a new site, trying to find them,
some PM'd me went to the site given but it's a porn site! What the?

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by hit the lights » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:57 am

La Habra head coach Mazzotta , take high road and apologizes to Grady and Edison for their part in the Fight incident.
Its like when your in school, and someone starts a fight with you, and you defend yourself only ti find youself in the principlies office and both are suspended. Is it right, no, but thats the way they do it. Trust me , when i say, La Habra coaches preach the right things to their kids. They are not telling them to go out there and hurt people, just play hard, and compete. All these years, No problems in any tourney let alone Edisons. La Habra coaches are mostly all retired, some ex head coaches and some held down professional jobs that defend the community. They are giving their kids good advise and actually care for the kids. La Habra football program is well respected , coach mazzotta and staff is well respected, the rings and record speak for themselves, while others, not to mention any other names, but they wear purple and black, are constantly on FRONT STREET, trying to make a name, and thats usually done by alot of talking and intimidation, a little jail house style culture. RESPECT!!! Thats not how you get it! If i had a choice for my kid, which i do, i wouldnt be choosing that type of enviornment for my kid. To each his own though.
Glad that Mazzotta took the high road, and let everyone know, hey La Habra is a classy program, has been for a long time, might not have the things some do, but is a hard working , blue collar team , that competes against anyone, but
wont be taken advantage of. La Habra is a FAMILY, a community, and plays the game the right way.
Next up Mission Viejo 7 on 7! LETS GET IT!! :rockon:

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:26 pm

BoscoBandWagon wrote:The good ole PASSING LEAGUE debate.

Bosco is not good in passing league, they never have been.
Thanks for stating the obvious point that we’ve all made already honk. Love how it means nothing followed by a million excuses as to why you did poorly. You guys miss the fact that all these guys could have played together for the first time yesterday and their talent alone would make them the odds on favorite. They instead underachieved. Badly. Period. Quit putting lipstick on a fat, ugly pig.
BoscoBandWagon wrote:But after the tournament talking to the coaches, they did seem very pleased especially after the terrible showing in the Los Al tournament.
Wait..thought 7on didn’t matter? You can’t make this crap up lol....
BoscoBandWagon wrote:As for the dork talking about the la habra-md score vs the bosco-md score you must not have known that bosco beat la habra 28-7 that same day MD beat them by less..... LOL what a stupid arguement.
If only you knew how to spell the word argument, but I digress.

Your posts are riddled with dumb arguments as clearly outlined for you above. Plus you were the one who used La Habra in a 7on comparison first in an earlier, different thread, so nice to meet you.
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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:35 pm

dont be that guy wrote:"La Habra scores more points and lost by less against MD in the Los Al tournament (with Bryce) than Bosco did at Edison. Just not acceptable."

Um, what are you talking about? What does LH have to do with this? If you are saying that La Habra is a better flag football team than Bosco? OK, great, but all that proves is that 7 on 7 is irrelevant, Bosco/MD would be 50+ favorites vs. LH in real football.

Not even a Bosco/MD fan. 7 on 7 truly doesn't mean anything.
The point? You all should have scored way more points. Period. Best q in the nation, best receivers in the nation. Best excuses in the nat...wait, never mind that last one.

You needed linemen to score? Loya, Hudson, Williams and the rest can’t get open without linemen? DJ needs linemen to throw the ball? Lol.

Stop pounding your chest like it’s something special. No doubt MD or Bosco beats ANYONE else they want by at least 50. The talent gap is immense (better recruiting and resource$ than other programs), which only goes to my original point that your boys lay eggs in 7on.

Now you did see below how md fans called you out for your nonsense? Guess you were wrong on that one too. You telling me your boys are worse flag football players than la Habra? Or that it’s just flag football and it doesn’t mean anything? So why would DJ then skip the Elite 11 to do something you claim is useless? Lol.

C’mon, quit making excuses. You all underachieved. Do I need to type this in capital letters like mr. puff his chest out does on Twitter to get my point across?

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by templar83 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:07 am

TripleB wrote:QR_BBPOST
No doubt MD or Bosco beats ANYONE else they want by at least 50. The talent gap is immense (better recruiting and resource$ than other programs),
ANYONE is a big number, so to speak. JSerra has narrowed the talent gap to which you refer significantly and at least 5 of the teams on MD's 10 game schedule will provide serious challenges to the Monarchs.

Also, in the future could you tell us how you really feel; quit being so vague with your comments....

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by dont be that guy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:19 am

TripleB wrote:The point? You all should have scored way more points. Period. Best q in the nation, best receivers in the nation. Best excuses in the nat...wait, never mind that last one.

You needed linemen to score? Loya, Hudson, Williams and the rest can’t get open without linemen? DJ needs linemen to throw the ball? Lol.

Stop pounding your chest like it’s something special. No doubt MD or Bosco beats ANYONE else they want by at least 50. The talent gap is immense (better recruiting and resource$ than other programs), which only goes to my original point that your boys lay eggs in 7on.

Now you did see below how md fans called you out for your nonsense? Guess you were wrong on that one too. You telling me your boys are worse flag football players than la Habra? Or that it’s just flag football and it doesn’t mean anything? So why would DJ then skip the Elite 11 to do something you claim is useless? Lol.

C’mon, quit making excuses. You all underachieved. Do I need to type this in capital letters like mr. puff his chest out does on Twitter to get my point across?
I think this post sounded better in your head.

First, who is “you”? I made it clear that I am not a Bosco or MD fan.

Second, who made excuses? I simply stated that 7 on 7 is not relevant to real football. The LH vs Bosco example makes that clear.

Third, “you need linemen to score”? In real football, yes. In flag football, no.

Fourth, I’m pretty sure that Bosco didn’t lay an egg since they were in the finals.

Fifth, I’m not sure what MD fans called me out. The “dork” they were referencing was you for trying to compare LH to MD/Bosco.

Lastly, I’m pretty sure that DJ skipped Elite 11 because he’s already committed to Clemson. Not sure why Bryce would be there.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by credofriar » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:23 am

What is the bosco to la habra comparison? Bosco beat la habra by more than md did in the same tournament/same day. But now we are saying 6 weeks later md beat bosco by more than they did la habra and that's relevant how?

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by dont be that guy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:22 am

It's not. It's completely irrelevant.

This was the quote: "La Habra scores more points and lost by less against MD in the Los Al tournament (with Bryce) than Bosco did at Edison. Just not acceptable."

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:15 pm

TripleB needs a hug or two in his life. The man is angry.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:42 pm

Thanks cup for the hug.

The LH comparison was in reference to how the Bosco Band Wagon chump used their game against the Highlanders in the Scandrick tournament as an example of how they did well since LH made it to the finals later that day. Funny how none of you guys called him out as being irrelevant.

But alas, I agree it’s a bad comparison in hindsight. Consider the comparison put to bed by all of us, myself included.

Nevertheless, the important point still stands that Bosco underachieves in these tournaments. Now the Bosco apologists want to say these things don’t matter AT ALL, which we know is not the case, only to then offer up dumb excuses as to why they don’t do well. BBW is the biggest culprit of talking out of both sides of his mouth. And boy does that guy have a big mouth.

Setting all these things aside, the talent gap with Bosco and MD is still significant when it comes to skill players relative to all other teams in California. Sorry Templar, that even includes JSerra and Servite for at least one more year. At least IMHO.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by TripleB » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:02 pm

dont be that guy wrote:I think this post sounded better in your head.
Doesn’t it always?
dont be that guy wrote:First, who is “you”? I made it clear that I am not a Bosco or MD fan.
Lol! Okay...
dont be that guy wrote:Second, who made excuses? I simply stated that 7 on 7 is not relevant to real football.
C’mon, there are multiple posts of guys making excuses. Maybe you should read posts other than your own.

Either way, it’s competition and therefore matters on some level. If it didn’t matter at all, like you strongly imply, no one would do these things.
dont be that guy wrote:Third, “you need linemen to score”? In real football, yes. In flag football, no.
You really didn’t get it? My point was Bosco should score a large amount of points given the crazy level of talent they have at skill positions. Your comment about how none of this matters because there weren’t linemen there was not just irrelevant but was also wrong. They should have scored more points. Period. Now everyone agrees Bosco’s linemen make a difference in pads. But their skill kids still need to make plays in those games too.
dont be that guy wrote:Fourth, I’m pretty sure that Bosco didn’t lay an egg since they were in the finals.
Again, as noted by a md fan above, they were outscored by a team led by a sophomore who has never seen a varsity rep. And they scored so few points against a team they badly wanted to beat. That’s laying an egg in my book.
dont be that guy wrote:Fifth, I’m not sure what MD fans called me out. The “dork” they were referencing was you for trying to compare LH to MD/Bosco.
They called you out when you said these didn’t matter. Again, you gotta read posts other than your own.
dont be that guy wrote:Lastly, I’m pretty sure that DJ skipped Elite 11 because he’s already committed to Clemson. Not sure why Bryce would be there.
He and his dad said he skipped it for the specific reason to get more work in with his teammates and that in particular meant the Edison tournament.

As to why Bryce went, every 5 star before him had ALL attended the Elite 11. So it makes sense why Bryce was there to compete on the national stage against the best of the best. Nice taking a shot at him unnecessarily.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by OldSunsetFan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 am

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by hit the lights » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:20 am

This is one of those cute little tourneys. Expecting....
CDM, SAN CLEMENTE, TESORO, JSERRA
SEMI'S AND FINALS.

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Re: Edison BATTLE OF THE BEACH 2019

Post by KuppRunneth » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:56 am

Jserra has bowed out of the tournament.

Not surprised. Harlow was livid with the team after they were eliminated at MV and he probably said enough of this 7 v 7 stuff.

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