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2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

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2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby Domingo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:15 am

Santa Margarita beat San Clemente in the CIF Pac5 Final that season with a team of great local Santa Margarita players including QB Johnny Stanton. That Eagles team lost 2 league games (Mater Dei and Servite) and barely beat SJB by 8 points. Every league game was a battle and schools weren't shuttling in kids from the I.E. and Los Angeles to play football and attend their schools for a flat rate of $200/month. Today Championships are recruited and paid for. There's no disputing that. Was this 2011 Santa Margarita Team the last legitimate, non-paid for Champion of the Pac5?



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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby SoCalFball » Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:22 am

What about when Cen10 won back to back in 14/15?

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby watchersince68 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:26 am

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby aberamsey » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:45 am

This board is like groundhog day, every couple of months getting into the pointless conversation about the new reality of high school football in Southern California as it relates to Bosco/MD and now JSerra. I think everyone agrees that the transfer game is out of control and these changes aren't all good. That being said though, in all the negative news I think it's important to remember that these school are also giving lower income and minority students the opportunity to get a great education and the chance to play football (and other sports) at a very high level. For all the stories we hear of players leaving, getting suspended, etc, there are other stories of the "bussed in kids" receiving opportunities they may not have had at their home schools. While there are unfortunate situations where kids/parents may be using the school solely for athletic purposes and then leaving soon after, there are also cases like DJ Bailey who had a "scholarship" to JSerra for four years and ended up at Harvard University. Not every student athlete is going to fully realize the opportunity they are given from these scholarships, but many do.

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby OCurbanlegend » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:20 am

perfectly said....


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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby Domingo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:54 am


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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Cha

Postby Luca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:12 pm


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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby BuckW » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 pm

The majority of the pay for play schools will be playing in the CIF Division of 8 teams this season. It was actually a smart move by CIF to group those eight together. Let the IMG schools compete against each other leaving Division 2 for the true high school championship. The next move should be to put these schools in the same league. Make it the IMG West league with Bosco, MD, Oaks Christian, Corona Centennial, Jserra and Mission Viejo.

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby OCurbanlegend » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:39 pm

What did Mission Viejo and Corona Centennial do besides coach their kids well enough that if you are going to go to public school why not there?


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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby BuckW » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:48 pm

Mission Viejo has more junior and senior transfers this year than MD and the quarterback's Dad has not stopped recruiting. He is still calling the parents of SM players. Nenad was just his latest success.

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby RPW » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:20 pm

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby Domingo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:47 pm

No clue RPW. I don't think I've even seen a player's religion on their bio. Back to my question sir. Are you not offended by the notion that minorities need the 'ol Catholic Church for a "good education"? You seem to be concerned about racism being spewed on this board, did that comment not offend you? Blacks and Samoans should be grateful for the opportunity being offered to them by the majority White Catholic Church and her sponsors?

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby Domingo » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:50 pm


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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby RPW » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:04 pm

Its more about community dynamics and opportunity. Would you not agree the quality of education in some areas pale in comparison to those schools? You have exceptions to the rule but for the most part kids in certain areas will not make it without help.

You don't know the religion of these kids but are bashing them for being non-catholic. Fairmont Prep has minority kids from outside of the neighborhood area. Did you check on their religious status?
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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby Luca » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:16 pm

By “homegrown” I think he’s referring to kids who weren’t athletic transfers or recruited to the school. He didn’t say “none of the kids”. As was pointed out, one starter transferred in...................Luca

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Re: 2011 Santa Margarita Eagles - Last Legitimate D1/Pac5 Champion?

Postby BuckW » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:57 pm

OCurbanlegend you must be new to OC football. Mission Viejo was the first to master the transfer game and taking in players from outside their attendance boundaries. It all started about 20 years ago when Bob Johnson took over the program. His first big transfer was Billy Hart out of Foothill followed by Jordan Palmer, Jed Collins and Mark Sanchez out of Santa Margarita. Two of Bob's biggest takes were the Moline Brothers from Dana Hills and the Reuland Brothers out of San Juan Capistrano. Over the last two decades I can't think of a single starting QB at Mission Viejo that wasn't a transfer or a player from outside their attendance boundaries. Even the grandson didn't reside in the boundaries. This model of using transfers to build their program continues with Chad Johnson. Three of the last four starting QBs at MV have been transfers from Trinity League schools.


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