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Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:19 pm

yes, that reminds me as to why MaxPreps didn't select MD as unanimous number 1, since they did have one loss during the regular season



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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby Omar Bongo » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:16 pm

MaxPreps didn't select MD as unanimous number 1

Maxpreps has 2 polls, the computer based one had Mater Dei comfortably on top. The human based one had North Shore #1.

Calpreps' computer ratings (the same one Maxpreps uses) are the gold standard. Whenever humans are involved bias and politics are as well.
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Postby FatherSonHolyHldbcks » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:34 pm

CalPreps isn’t the “gold standard” for anything. And like was said above, voters ranking teams from around the nation aren’t using a California rating system to figure out who is best. And that doesn’t make them “political” :roll: If a rating system was called “FloridaPreps” no one in California would want it relied upon to determine a national champ

CalPreps and Maxpreps computer rankings use BS, flawed algorithms, created and coded & implemented by humans, just like the joke of a “proprietary algorithm” used by High School Football America. Everything in those “projections” and ratings is based off the initial input and coding done by whoever programmed it, creating bias in the way certain factors are weighted over others to get the ratings and projections.

HSFB America’s proprietary algorithm regularly manages to rank the teams outside it’s top 20-25 that every single “human poll” has in their top 10. All those human polls are just wrong because the computer said so? GTFOH. And MaxPreps idiotic computer poll always seems to have teams ranked it its top 25 that are not even in the top 40-50 for other polls. THAT (and it’s apparent cousin CalPreps) is the “gold standard”?? ROFL

No national poll or rating system is gospel, they are all flawed

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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:28 am



SFA beats former #3 IMG but stays behind new #3 Duncanville in latest Maxpreps Top 25.

Very tough week for Bosco’s schedule strength, as both Good Counsel and DeMatha lost their national rankings with league losses to St Johns and Gonzaga respectively.

Last weeks Top 25 scores:

https://www.maxpreps.com/m/news/WI4nWWc ... cademy.htm

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Postby RedPillWonderland » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:51 am



MD #1, Florida St Thomas Aquinas #2 and Bosco #3 in latest USA TODAY rankings. SFA moved up from 8 to 5 after its IMG win, with Duncanville (TX) at 4.

De La Salle moved up to #8, and Good Counsel also dropped out of these rankings after its loss.

Other major rankings released for this week:

HSFB America:



Jeff Fisher and HSFB America rank MD-SJB 1-2, followed by a move of SFA up to 3. STA is 4, with Duncanville at 5. DLS is 11, and Good Counsel and DeMatha stayed in the top 25 in this ranking despite league losses, at 19 and 21 respectively. GC and DeMatha play this week in a rivalry game.

Prep Nation/National Prep Poll:



MD/SJB 1-2, SFA 3, DLS 13.

PrepForce poll:



PrepForce ranks all 4 of the top teams in the WCAC (SJC/DeMatha/GC/Gonzaga) in its top 25, including ranking St Johns at 14 (the only poll with the 4-4 Cadets ranked). MD/SJB are 1-2, St Frances is 4 and DLS is 15.

Should note that the top team in New Jersey, St Joes Regional, who was nationally ranked all season and beat JSerra in the Honor Bowl, lost in a league game upset to Don Bosco Prep, who Bosco beat earlier in the year.

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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby dntn31 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:39 pm

For anyone who is interested, I maintain that includes 7 of the major polling services and provides a more holistic look than the compilation poll released by MaxPreps and the media compilation poll put out by HSFBA.

Note: Jamie DeMoney of PrepNation currently has two teams ranked at #23 in the rankings he released yesterday. :bonk:

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Postby Omar Bongo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:50 pm

I maintain a weekly compilation poll that includes 7 of the major polling services

Maxpreps' Composite 25 the averages the MaxPreps poll, PrepNation poll, USA Today poll, High School Football America poll and the Calpreps/MaxPreps computer.

Without making me leave this site, can you explain what you mean by a "more holistic" look? Do you not have MD-Bosco ranked 1-2?
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Postby Omar Bongo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:59 pm

So that's a "no" and a "no comment"...

I'm not afraid of a virus. I just wanted a little more info. Thanks anyway.
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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:58 pm

makes me wonder how MD would match up with St. Thomas Acquinas, if its not either MD or Bosco which finishes the season ranked number 1 nationally, i'll still be happy as long as its any team besides MD.
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Postby Omar Bongo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:20 pm

That would be one I'd like to see as well. They don't get out of Florida much but they did beat De La Salle 24-14 in Concord in August.

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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:39 pm

it also makes me wonder, which best HS team from Texas, would be the best matchup with the recent MD teams, of 2017 up to now, because I don't think Texas teams travel much for games, match-ups

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Re: Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

Postby dntn31 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:48 pm

Haha, I've been lurking, and occasionally contributing, on various high school and college football boards for probably over 15 years. I know the lay of the land pretty well by now. Thanks for the heads up though.

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