Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

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Post by dntn31 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:58 am

John Q. Public wrote:QR_BBPOSTIt isn't fear, it's just asking for the courtesy of explaining what you're talking about. People don't like to leave while they're in the middle of reading something. Simple as that.
I answered his question before he even asked it. Also, clicking the link and closing the new tab or hitting back on your browser requires orders of magnitude less effort than posting what he did. My reply about fear was more of an attempt at a comedic response at the absurdity of his request.

Perhaps it's because I haven't had my coffee yet this morning, but I feel a bit like Alice through the looking glass right now having to type this.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:24 pm

You need more than coffee
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Post by dntn31 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:33 pm

Omar Bongo wrote:QR_BBPOST You need more than coffee
You got anything better?

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Post by Playthegame » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:24 pm

DLS is ranked way to hi, not T25...

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Post by OldSunsetFan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:33 pm

OutOfState wrote:MD had one loss on the field and also had to forfeit their first game of the season. So technically they had 2 losses on their record. I think some rankings, especially USAT, held that against MD in the end. NorthShore was ranked below MD going into the final games and they moved NorthShore to #1 in the end. Outrageous!
If Mater Dei or St. John Bosco doesn’t run the table.. Maxpreps will again vote one of the lower level Texas teams #1.

The end of last season I was kick of Twitter for tell the truth about Maxpreps...

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:32 pm

yup, they always want to choose the undefeated team as the true team that finishes ranked number 1

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Post by OldSunsetFan » Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:51 am

Yes

Strength of schedule for the East and West Coast teams are the best.

A undefeated Texas team that only played all the other Texas teams should means nothing outside of Texas.

Maxpreps is a media outlet that has the same disliking mindset of most of Northern California towards Southern California.

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Post by dntn31 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:42 pm

Despite the loss St. John Bosco stays at No. 2 and if either team runs the table the rest of the way they will be the national champion in 2019.
Looks like, realistically, the MaxPreps 2019 MNC has been narrowed down to 2 teams..

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:20 am

"and if either team runs the table the rest of the way they will be the national champion in 2019"

no doubt going to be MD, I can also see MD reloading better next year than Bosco does.


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Post by Kuppster » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:37 pm

WantTheNFLBack714 wrote:"and if either team runs the table the rest of the way they will be the national champion in 2019"

no doubt going to be MD, I can also see MD reloading better next year than Bosco does.
MD will definitely get them in quality. Bosco will get them in quantity.

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:41 pm

yup, thats been the case since both programs became what they are now, JT Daniels, reading an article about him, saying he had wanted to play QB for MD since 5th grade, most high schools don't have that type of influence on youth athletes


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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:09 am

ya, i probably won't watch the remainder of the season since i know MD is gonna have a 3-peat.

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:39 pm

Maxpreps is strongly considering, labeling MD the team of the decade, but it's listing other teams and what their arguments, accomplishments hold:
https://www.maxpreps.com/news/60DyK9cHz ... decade.htm

but ya, the 2017 MD team, just monstrously powerful, i have to agree they are very likely the best team in CIF history.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:01 pm

You have to consider not just the results, but against whom? They say that MD has had by far the toughest strength of schedule of all the candidates. That combined with their record should end the discussion...

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:12 pm

ya I would say that sums it up, I believe the last H.S. team from the Southern California region to finish the season ranked number 1 in the Nation in multiple polls or just key polls that is not named MD, was Loyola H.S. of L.A. in 1975.

I guess it's just part of MD's destiny

I still feel reluctant to call the 2013 Bosco team a National Champion team since that team is not listed on Wikipedia and they didn't finish in key polls or multiple polls.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:11 pm

<I guess it's just part of MD's destiny>


Yeah that's it

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Post by 2002tony » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:39 am

WantTheNFLBack714 wrote:
> ya I would say that sums it up, I believe the last H.S. team from the
> Southern California region to finish the season ranked number 1 in the
> Nation in multiple polls or just key polls that is not named MD, was Loyola
> H.S. of L.A. in 1975.
>
> I guess it's just part of MD's destiny
>
> I still feel reluctant to call the 2013 Bosco team a National Champion team
> since that team is not listed on Wikipedia and they didn't finish in key
> polls or multiple polls.

from what I read the 2013 St .John Bosco team was ranked number 1 by MaxPreps and USA Today and I got that from Wikipedia....
but the USA Today site list Washington as their Number 1 team not Bosco
I guess you cant trust Wikipedia all the time

Last high school not named MD after Loyola was Fontana in '87
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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:00 am

just sarcasm, saying that it's part of MD's destiny to be the only H.S. football program of the Southern California region to represent H.S. Football number 1 national ranking, or national champions, DLS being the North for California, since DLS and MD are the only CA H.S. Football teams that have won a National Title in H.S. Football in modern times, after Loyola H.S. of 1975, it's only been either MD or DLS from California to have finished ranked number 1 in the Nation from California.

but oddly enough, it was a few days ago, Booker T. Washington H.S. was listed on Wikipedia for the 2013 season.

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