Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:32 pm

SFA jumps all over IMG, 14-0 end of 1st; Blake Corum running wild again (MD game was no fluke for that kid).

IMG starting a new QB, sophomore from Georgia Chad Mascoe; throws INT to Florida commit Clinton Burton Jr. SFA recovers fumble on the return and drive in for 2 yard TD pass.

SFA just sacked Mascoe back to back plays, then a punt return to mid field. IMG on the ropes early.

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Post by jb914 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:49 pm

SFA stuffs IMG on 4th down after IMG's first solid drive of the game. Blown up in backfield

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:52 pm

IMG was driving too, big 4th down stop. SFA DB Brion Allen STONING IMG running back Kaytron Allen. Allen on Allen crime.

4m left 1H still 14-0 Panthers

That MD win looking real nice right now. These YouTube comments on MD, IMG, SFA, Bosco and others have me dying lol ...

“Mater Dei and Bosco get players from all over California!”

“Bryce Young and MD OLine with North Shore RB SFA DLine and IMG secondary, unbeatable”

Guy 1: “Maryland > Florida!!!! BMORE!!” ... Guy 2: “Please you know none of these kids are from Maryland OR Florida” LOL

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:04 pm

IMG drives the length of the field for TD pass from DJ Boney to Corey Palmer with :29 left.

EP good, SFA 14 IMG 7

IMG gets ball first after halftime

We got a ballgame for the 2nd half

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 pm

#5 ST FRANCES ACADEMY absolutely smacks national #3 IMG, 35-7, dominating the second half. Blake Corum probably ran for close to 200 yards again, including a 50 yard run down the sideline with 2m left, setting up the final score. That kid is legit, going to be a beast at Michigan.

That Mater Dei dominant win over St Frances looking even bigger now.

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Post by OutOfState » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:52 pm

35-7 Final. Statement win for SFA.

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:21 pm

it makes me wonder if SFA would perform better against MD in a rematch, just like how you saw the difference between MD and Bosco's regular-season game last year, compared to their post-season rematch game last year.

I remember Bru McCoy said in post-game interview, on what he felt was MD's performance difference against Bosco in the title game compared to their regular-season game, he said "after the IMG game, we thought we were invincible, unstoppable, so we got cocky and overconfident."

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:49 pm

WantTheNFLBack714 wrote:QR_BBPOST it makes me wonder if SFA would perform better against MD in a rematch
Lol, if Bryce Young plays, MD beats St Frances no matter how many times they run it back.

Not sure how St Frances humbling IMG makes anyone think SFA could win a rematch against an MD team that humbled them (was 34-6 in the 3rd quarter), but that’s just me.

Not really comparable to MD/SJB, who have played like 12 times since 2013 and know each other backward and forward.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:58 pm

OutOfState wrote:QR_BBPOST 35-7 Final. Statement win for SFA.


Blake Corum indeed had 200+ yards rushing and 2 TDs, plus a bunch of catches out of the backfield. I think the kid is the best RB in the nation, one of my favorite players in his class. Has a pro skill set and toughness. He has run all over Mater Dei and IMG for almost 400 yards in 2 games. Can Bijan Robinson, Zach Evans, Kendall Milton or any other back say that?

All that talk after their MD loss about St Frances: not a real team, didn’t deserve to be ranked that high, was poorly coached, a bunch of hyped up recruits, would be the 4th best team in the Trinity Lg lol. All of that is looking silly now. SFA is clearly legit, MD was just that much better.

If Mater Dei beats Bosco, SFA has an argument to be back at #2 over Duncanville, whose schedule is very suspect thus far.

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Post by templar83 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:24 am

RedPillWonderland wrote:QR_BBPOST
If Mater Dei beats Bosco,
R-Pill, this is a mighty big IF. It's admittedly hard to judge, but it appears that uninspired effort ( and near loss ) the Braves had against Servite woke the team up. Bosco has been playing the part of second fiddle to MD in the near past and it's no secret they are primed to change that up come Friday. They have an elite QB who has a solid O-line and four dudes to throw to. Their defense is fast and well coached and as a team I'm confident they're tired of hearing about MD's drive to three-peat as National Champions. Yes I know, MD can claim the same status as to their QB, O-line, receivers and defense, but MD is a bit nicked up and losing their starting left guard for this game is significant. And Bosco is at home in their new stadium, what a great opportunity for them to properly christen Panish field with a victory over their toughest League rival. These two may well meet up twice in the next month or so, but this coming up Friday should swing Bosco's way, IMO.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:25 am

St John’s with an epic upset of nationally ranked league rival Good Counsel in the Bosco v Mater Dei resume-builder game:



On a night when Mater Dei cruised to a win against an overmatched league rival, their schedule added some serious juice with big wins by teams 3000 miles away in Baltimore St Frances and D.C. St Johns.
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Post by Kuppster » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:36 am

templar83 wrote:R-Pill, this is a mighty big IF. It's admittedly hard to judge, but it appears that uninspired effort ( and near loss ) the Braves had against Servite woke the team up. Bosco has been playing the part of second fiddle to MD in the near past and it's no secret they are primed to change that up come Friday. They have an elite QB who has a solid O-line and four dudes to throw to. Their defense is fast and well coached and as a team I'm confident they're tired of hearing about MD's drive to three-peat as National Champions. Yes I know, MD can claim the same status as to their QB, O-line, receivers and defense, but MD is a bit nicked up and losing their starting left guard for this game is significant. And Bosco is at home in their new stadium, what a great opportunity for them to properly christen Panish field with a victory over their toughest League rival. These two may well meet up twice in the next month or so, but this coming up Friday should swing Bosco's way, IMO.
I hope you’re right but I don’t see this at all

I still have MD to win by 10. Bosco defense is not good and BY will feast.

I don’t think home field will matter that much when it comes to these two. MD side will be sold out.

MD 44
SJB 33

As of right now. I need to look deeper and see how Bosco looks in practice. I feel like the parents are more pumped up about this game

One huge advantage for MD is I always felt like they played as one and actually like each other more. It shows.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:28 am

templar83 wrote:QR_BBPOST R-Pill, this is a mighty big IF.
That comment was more about St Frances than Bosco, but I get it man, it’s Bosco-MD week and we’re all ready to rock! lol.

I also said “if” for a reason, and not “when.” I think this game is going to be super competitive and so many things will factor into it; I don’t see either team as a clear favorite.

Missing Levasa (if he is indeed suspended) would hurt chemistry a bit, but I don’t agree that it’s as significant as you cast it there. MD has great depth on the OL. Faatoalia is a big, strong, talented two way lineman and would be starting for almost any other team, Tapusoa has starting exp. (see below), Sione Moa is a 2 way lineman, and injured 330 lb Allen, Texas transfer D. Ford could return this season, although unlikely to do so this game. MD has played without starting OLs for stretches throughout the season, shuffled the lineup, and keep the machine humming.

Levasa missed the Peoria Centennial game, they started a sophomore (Mosula Tapusoa) in his place ... and scored 71 POINTS! I’m obviously not saying that will be the result here, but they will be fine regardless of whether Levasa plays, and it’s not like they are facing a defensive front from SFA or IMG. Bosco has a solid front, Pepe is a problem and Gaoteote was the free agent pickup of the year, but Mater Dei’s Oline, even if without Levasa, has the clear advantage in that matchup.

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:30 pm

templar83 wrote:R-Pill, this is a mighty big IF. It's admittedly hard to judge, but it appears that uninspired effort ( and near loss ) the Braves had against Servite woke the team up. Bosco has been playing the part of second fiddle to MD in the near past and it's no secret they are primed to change that up come Friday. They have an elite QB who has a solid O-line and four dudes to throw to. Their defense is fast and well coached and as a team I'm confident they're tired of hearing about MD's drive to three-peat as National Champions. Yes I know, MD can claim the same status as to their QB, O-line, receivers and defense, but MD is a bit nicked up and losing their starting left guard for this game is significant. And Bosco is at home in their new stadium, what a great opportunity for them to properly christen Panish field with a victory over their toughest League rival. These two may well meet up twice in the next month or so, but this coming up Friday should swing Bosco's way, IMO.
ya, I really hope Bosco is heavily motivated and fired up to avenge their back-to-back post-season losses to MD, I thought that was gonna be the case in last years title game, but nope, I believe MD's defense was the main difference in that game right? what position players failed for Bosco the most in last years title game? it was mainly their O-Line right? Ending MD's dynasty should be what Bosco is fired up and motivated for the most, but keyword, probably won't happen, I see MD winning at least by 1 TD.

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Post by Kuppster » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:43 pm

Yeah the Bosco line had a difficult time stopping the past rust in round 2. MD had a great game plan. Send the house and play small ball on offense, keeping the braves off the field. It was a perfect game plan. Coach Lo did not adjust his play calling. It’s as if he forgot what made things great the first game.

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Post by FriarJoe » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:52 pm

Does it really matter who wins this game? The only one that matters is the Nov 30 game in the finals. These are the top 2 seeds regardless and no one will care about this game on Nov 30 anyway as you can win state or the “Natty” without winning 11/30.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:50 pm

All the non-west coast voters and bitter drips like Sondheimer would love a split because then they could vote in an unbeaten team like Texas Katy or Duncanville regardless of their cupcake scheds...case in point after last year's split unbeaten North Shore TX finished No. 1 in Maxpreps' human poll even though Calpreps' computer had them trailing MD 96-78 in power rating and 65-42 in sched strength...pure politics

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Post by OutOfState » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:10 pm

FriarJoe wrote:Does it really matter who wins this game?
Yes.
I agree with you that it shouldn’t, but it does. As Omar said, if MD and Bosco split the series then there is an extremely good chance that a team like Duncanville, TX or STA from Florida will win the ‘mythical’ national championship. It happened last year. Some polls would rather give it to an undefeated team with an inferior resume, rather than rewarding a superior team with a better resume, even with a loss.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:50 pm

OutOfState wrote:QR_BBPOST Some polls would rather give it to an undefeated team with an inferior resume, rather than rewarding a superior team with a better resume, even with a loss.
This is a definitely part of what happened last year with North Shore, but only because it was a team from a state like Texas or Florida. Voters give an undefeated state champ from states like that a late season bump for winning mega-gauntlet state tournaments, right or wrong (last year I think it was wrong).

That doesn’t apply to everyone; if Hawaii St Louis somehow ended up as the highest ranked undefeated team this season, for example, they would be very unlikely to finish above a one loss MD/Bosco.

The USA Today pollsters and Maxpreps voters like Zach Poff and Mitch Stephens arent using the CalPreps computer ratings to determine their final votes between teams from all over the nation, but I agree with you OOS, whatever ratings measure or eye test they do use in December is certainly affected by the loss column, regency bias and (in the case of some voters) personal affinity for particular players or storylines.

But it’s always been that way since national polls became a thing. It’s not a new development.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:10 pm

The best way for any state champ (or academy) to make a case to every national poll is to just win every game and play other great teams along the way. Right now, both MD and Bosco have a great shot at finishing as a unanimous #1; but ONLY if they are undefeated, because there is no way that happens if they finish with one loss.

So while a likely second matchup would matter more for sectional and state purposes, this game certainly matters, period, and especially matters as far as who finishes #1 nationally. And A LOT of people around the country seem to care about that.

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