Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by dont be that guy » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:48 pm

FriarJoe wrote:Mission has an argument for #3 if they finish a dominant 10-0. I have no issue with that. CC’s loss to MD means zero but the Cathedral Catholic loss does lower their esteem a bit. I’d much rather be a 6 seed than a 4 or 5 seed. The 4 or 5 seed has MD and a guaranteed beat down waiting for them in the second round. I think it’s clear that it will be hard for Servite or JSerra to drop out of the Top 8 unless they suffer a bad loss to OLu or SM. That is becoming very clear.
They definitely have an argument based on their record, but their strength of schedule is a joke for a Division 1 team. They have played all lower level teams, struggled with the last place team in the Trinity League, and will likely beat an SC team that got throttled by CDM. It could be a one-and-done year for MV regardless if they are #3 or #4. If they do advance, it'll look a lot like last year (over at halftime.)

...but, honestly after #1 and #2, it's kind of irrelevant.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:35 pm

I think the last time a team that wasn't seeded #1 or #2 won it all was 2012 (LB Poly)

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by RedPillWonderland » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:10 pm

The last team to win CIF D1/Pac-5 football title that wasn’t a top 2 seed was 2014 Centennial (#3 seed).

Upset 1-seed Bosco, 48-41 in Josh Rosen’s last high school game. Was the first IE team since Rialto Eisenhower in 1993 to win top division in football.

JSerra was actually the #2 seed that year.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by 2002tony » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:03 am

DBTG, besides not liking MV, lets just put your comments in order about jokes. Has anyone that post on here pretending that there was any team in So. Cal (not just MV) besides Bosco that was given any chance of not being blown out by MD! And yes that is a statement not a question.

I would have liked MV preseason schedule to have been a little better but it is not like the majority of Div 1 teams did not have much better schedule drawn up before the season started. So I guess in your thinking Div 1 as a whole is a joke in scheduling.

Div 1 teams
teams with 3 or more Div 1 teams in their preseason
MD, SJB, JSerra, Olu, CC, San Clemente, LB Poly.

As for the other 11 teams - a few team had 2 games at the Div 1 level and the rest 1 or in the case of RC no games at the Div 1 level.

The Majority of teams in Div 1 played a preseason full of lower level games.

As far as MV Schedule, - game in Hawaii was at least against a better team then in the past, but it is what it is, a field trip to Hawaii

Sm - Your really going to complain about a game with a Trinity team?

LA Habra - has been a good game every year and at some point Frank may stop asking to reschedule. Its not like scheduling Div 5 Mayfair or Div 10 JW North.

Villa Park asked for this game last year and though they had good team last year they still had to finish the home and away contract this year. ( but have you wonder why or have you called out the No. 1 team in the nation who scheduled them too? ).. hmm good enough for MD and Servite but not MV...gotcha...I didnt like the scheduling the game in the first place but they were better then I expected last year, this year about where I thought.)

St Mary's - no one was thinking this was going to be a bad game or be as bad as it was before it was played. hmm and when MD put them on the schedule this was suppose to have been a big game...(St Marys asked for this game and thought they would be better, and they did have a lot of injuries.)

Upland - would have been moved into Div 1 this year by winning the D2 CIF Championship last year so just how is this a lower level game or bad game to schedule?

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by RedPillWonderland » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:24 am



You can obviously lose to MD or Bosco by 100 and it will not affect your playoff position.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by Omar Bongo » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:42 am

Mission-JS and Servite-CC would be firsts I believe...great matchups in any case
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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by SoCalFball » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:30 am

If all the Trinity League teams were to win in the first round I think all the public schools would revolt lol

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by RedPillWonderland » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:32 am

SoCalFball wrote: If all the Trinity League teams were to win in the first round I think all the public schools would revolt lol
That could realistically happen, and not just this year. And so could the revolt.

Matt Logan, Chris Claiborne and Tony Barbee (and others) might join Chad Johnson in the CIF “witness protection program.”

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by 2002tony » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:48 am

RedPillWonderland wrote:

You can obviously lose to MD or Bosco by 100 and it will not affect your playoff position.
Not when everyone below your playoff position has the same forecast if they would have played MD.

Just throw out the MD game results. It is like playing a team that everyone will beat by 100 too. The game is meaningless except one game is a W for everyone else and the other game is a L for everyone else.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by RedPillWonderland » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:51 am

2002tony wrote: Just throw out the MD game results.
Dude, that’s what I was saying. We’re on the same page lol

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by FatherSonHolyHldbcks » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:39 pm

Playthegame wrote: Omar, while possible...that the Braves could be the three seed, not probable, but thanks for being an Omar...
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It’s not probable ptg, good point. Because it’s not going to happen. Bosco as a 3 seed is as likely as the Dolphins as a 1 seed. What a pointless, off topic response by Ronald McBongo. If this “alias” thing seems like a go-to response for this guy whenever another poster exposes one of his “arguments”, you are not wrong:
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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by FatherSonHolyHldbcks » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:03 pm

RedPillWonderland wrote: The last team to win CIF D1/Pac-5 football title that wasn’t a top 2 seed was 2014 Centennial (#3 seed).
Very overlooked fact: Bosco was a 3 seed in 2016 when they beat Mater Dei for the title. Beat the 2 seed Cen10 49-47 in the semis on a terrible 4th down spot, umm, I mean a great 4th down stop by the defense in the final minutes.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by RedPillWonderland » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 am

FatherSonHolyHldbcks wrote: Very overlooked fact: Bosco was a 3 seed in 2016 when they beat Mater Dei for the title.
You’re right, good point; I overlooked that. The way Bosco finished the season makes you forget their seed that year.

Do I need to write out an apology to anybody? Lol

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by ShaneFalco » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:54 am

At what point does the MD train derail? It's inevitable, but when and how? Every school goes through it, I'm just curious to know how this chapter ends.

Here are my scenarios.

- Rollo retiring: Is the just a figurehead or does he hold all the power at MD? I hear he has some pull so maybe the transfer influx ends and parity ensues in the Trinity. You can already see this happening at Bosco, the depth chart ain't so deep in Brave Nation.

- Big donor, parental backlash: If little Johnny has lived his entire life to wear the "3 stripes" where he fulfills his duties on Frosh ball, JV ball, scout team Jr. year and finally his big Sr. year chance to shine and start but only to be bumped by a senior transfer from Corona.

- CIF Rules: Maybe the CIF gets some cajones and puts this nonsense to a halt. Mandatory for any transfer to a private school must sit out 1 football season, no exceptions. Public to public transfers have no penalty if its due to a legit address move. Might be tough to enforce as it was back in the day but at least you had parity.

Diocese - Maybe the diocese steps in and states that your roster must comprise of 90% baptized and confirmed Catholics (this one is for Domingo :D )

My :2cents: Out!

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:30 pm

good question, I believe MD is one of the few program in the SoCal region, I mean very few, that has always managed to stay relevant, I believe the 2011 season, is MD's only non-playoff appearance season in the Rollo era, the season before Rollo blew up the program, I believe in that time, they held the O.C. record for the longest streak of playoff appearences, I wonder which O.C. public school has the O.C. record for the longest streak of playoff appearences.

As for Rollo retiring, I can see him still remaining the HC just like the late Joe Paterno was at Penn State, or still being the HC while using a cane or a walker, that's how committed he is to MD.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by Sweetness34 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:48 pm

I believe the 2011 season, is MD's only non-playoff appearance season in the Rollo era, the season before Rollo blew up the program,
Rollo blew up the program AFTER the 2011 season. The Following year they made it to CIF Finals, only to get what was an upset at the time losing to LB Poly.

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by FatherSonHolyHldbcks » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:03 pm

RedPillWonderland wrote: Do I need to write out an apology to anybody? Lol
ROFL no that’s only Officer McBongo that thinks he is the flashlight traffic cop around here. None of the rest of us instinctively try to create problems between other members. But it’s all good....makes it easy to identify the troll without anything to contribute

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by jb914 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:29 pm

ShaneFalco wrote:At what point does the MD train derail? It's inevitable, but when and how? Every school goes through it, I'm just curious to know how this chapter ends.

- CIF Rules: Maybe the CIF gets some cajones and puts this nonsense to a halt. Mandatory for any transfer to a private school must sit out 1 football season, no exceptions. Public to public transfers have no penalty if its due to a legit address move. It might be tough to enforce as it was back in the day but at least you had parity.

My :2cents: Out!
So, everything stays the same except for the private schools :roll:

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by FatherSonHolyHldbcks » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:48 pm

WantTheNFLBack714 wrote: I believe the 2011 season, is MD's only non-playoff appearance season in the Rollo era, the season before Rollo blew up the program
Sweetness34 wrote: Rollo blew up the program AFTER the 2011 season. The Following year they made it to CIF Finals
Sweetness, you have to understand you’re dealing with a guy who talks about Rollo “blowing up the program” in literally every other post, or about Mater Dei missing the playoffs in 2011, as if he wants to jump in the DeLorean and transport back to that year. Before his personal nightmare began :lol:

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Re: Open/D1 Playoff Thoughts

Post by SoCalFball » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 am

CIF releases playoff info for D1 they will seed 1-8 no matter the league

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