NCAA / High School Athletes

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NCAA / High School Athletes

Post by hit the lights » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:16 am

NCAA will permit athletes to be compensated for their NAMES, IMAGES, & LIKENESS.
How do you all feel about this???
Question....
arent athletes in college already getting compensated? Maybe they should take away the scholarships,
75,000 a year, plus food, etc.. then let their compensation pay for their "full ride".?
Each kid will now have to have a legit lawyer, and make sure they are getting compensated. NCAA, just opened pandoras box. :thumbsdown:

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Post by SuperMonster » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:42 am

I've always felt that players should be compensated in some way and the argument against it was that scholarship players were getting a free college education (along with a small monthly stipend). Well, we all know that's BS because scholar athletes, especially football, get their first pick of classes with some sort of "counselor" guiding them to the easiest or athlete friendly classes and professors. Even though they may be coming out with a degree, did they really learn anything? I know all schools don't do this but football powerhouses definitely do. Therefore, some of these guys coming out of college with a "degree" aren't ready for the next step. Look at AB and his tweets. The guy sounds like a complete illiterate moron. With that said, you're right about this latest step by the NCAA, it's going to be a complete s##t storm :fan:

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Post by jb914 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:59 am

by SuperMonster Well, we all know that's BS because scholar athletes, especially football, get their first pick of classes with some sort of "counselor" guiding them to the easiest or athlete friendly classes and professors. Even though they may be coming out with a degree, did they really learn anything? I know all schools don't do this but football powerhouses definitely do.


There are a lot more athletes than just football and basketball. All are held to the same standards. If the kids are allowed to use their likeness and success on the field/court/diamond/pool/track/etc to make some $ more power to them. The F'n NCAA has them all as sharecroppers making them billions. Being an NCAA athlete is a full time job on top of full time student.

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Post by John Q. Public » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:02 am

Interesting topic when you think about how it will affect the whole high school->college->pro ecosystem and the strategizing that will go with it. It'll kind of suck for the non-stars, the ones who only get an endorsement deal for a local chain of pizza parlors and the ones who are the BMOC at Alcorn State but only have a shot at playing in the CFL after college or having to get, like, an actual "job". Git while the gittin's good? Pick your college based on your prospects of getting to the big dance or your prospects of making bucks RIGHT NOW?

But on the bright side, they just created a whole industry for college sports agents. I could only hope it would lead to a hiring surge for Finance professors.
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Post by Wabash » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:19 pm

The NCAA would not have done this if CA had not passed SB 206.

The NCAA threatened to exclude CA colleges from bowl games.

They caved.
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Post by Kuppster » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:44 pm

hit the lights wrote:QR_BBPOST NCAA will permit athletes to be compensated for their NAMES, IMAGES, & LIKENESS.
How do you all feel about this???
Question....
arent athletes in college already getting compensated? Maybe they should take away the scholarships,
75,000 a year, plus food, etc.. then let their compensation pay for their "full ride".?
Each kid will now have to have a legit lawyer, and make sure they are getting compensated. NCAA, just opened pandoras box.
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Post by Wabash » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:47 pm

hit the lights wrote: How do you all feel about this???
I'm all for it.

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Post by Kuppster » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:08 pm

Absolutely all for athletes getting paid for using their likeness.

Dabo making $9.5M per year off these kids and talking about how ridiculous it is to pay these players.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:55 pm

hit the lights wrote:Maybe they should take away the scholarships,
75,000 a year, plus food, etc.. then let their compensation pay for their "full ride".?
And say goodbye to all that sports revenue as top athletes go elsewhere ? After you...
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Post by Wabash » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:56 am

By all means do away with athletic scholarships. The Ivy League schools don't offer athletic scholarships. They have no problem attracting quality students.

One of Mrs. Wabash's friends went to Penn. Their favorite cheer when playing a high profile sports university.

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Post by hit the lights » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:17 am

Wabash-
That was a good cheer, and oh how true it is. Like someone else said above, look at AB, and his tweets, let alone some who try and speak post game interviews.Its different , if you get a few kids like the St. Brown family, who speak 3 different languages and actually are intelligent.
I respect all opinions, in my humble opinion, the NCAA is about as bad as CIF as they dont police, or just cave in to the masses or lawsuits. So it is up to the coaches to not just talk about it, but be about it, and if that means you lose some me guys, then so be it, go get some we guys and WIN!
I think a 75,000 scholarship plus benefits , is a pretty good payment. Use your degree, to cash in after your sport is done, otherwise, why do they need school? its obvious, some arent getting to class anyway.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:01 am

hit the lights wrote:Wabash-That was a good cheer, and oh how true it is.
Actually, it completely misses the point. These are not Ivy League schools and student-athletes we're talking about. It's the SEC, the Big 10, ACC, Big 12, Pac 12. Top athletic programs providing a pathway to the pros and MAJOR revenue generators...apples and oranges.
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Post by Wabash » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:18 am

hit the lights wrote:I think a 75,000 scholarship plus benefits , is a pretty good payment. Use your degree, to cash in after your sport is done, otherwise, why do they need school? its obvious, some arent getting to class anyway.
I would agree with you were it not for a couple of issues. I've known several individuals who played D1 and pro football. All three of them played at high profile D1 schools. Penn State, USC, and UCLA. All three individuals stated that academics were never a priority in their college experience. Only two of them actually graduated. The third has gone back to school (at his own expense) in his 40's.

All three of them stated how their scholarships were constantly being threatened with revocation if they did not comply with the time demands of being on the team. They essentially had two full time+ jobs.

I doubt that experience is unique to those individuals. When I hear people say they are getting a "free" education I tell myself that individual is clueless and there is nothing free about it. None of them stated they would want to relive their college days under the circumstances forced upon them by the NCAA and the coaches.
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Post by hit the lights » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:07 am

Yeah, i get it . Its win at all costs. The coach has a certain amount of time to win, before the alum comes knocking, and donors. The athletes get dialed in with all the right classes and counselors., Easy street.
Just to be eligible, i can see why scholarships are constantly threatened , when in what you say the kids mindset was, academics never a priority??? (accountability) Some never graduating? getting a degree at one of those schools later on your own dime, seems like more bad judgment, when it was given to you.
The schools you boast, Penn st, usc, ucla, i would definatly see why alot of people might want their kids at Stanford or a school like that.It sounds like these schools should be under investigation, if they arent already for fraud, passing kids, or taking their tests for them / homework. Why is everything so F"D up in our society, or with the youth? Maybe because for the all mighty dollar, they skate by for the bottom line, then pay dearly, when they are 40 and homeless, jobless, or working for that PENN or Stanford boss.
If they are lucky. Sports will not last forever, but your education will, and your mind will get you where you need to be, when you body gives out, because sooner or later it will.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:26 am

hit the lights wrote:Why is everything so F"D up in our society, or with the youth? Maybe because for the all mighty dollar...
Tread lightly, more talk like that and some narrow-minded knee-jerk might label you a stinkin' socialist :lol:


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Admit it, isn't it great that we live in a society where people are free to choose either life-course and not have some else decide what's best for them? Or both? It's not an either/or, you know.
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Post by Wabash » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:43 am

hit the lights wrote:QR_BBPOST Yeah, i get it . Its win at all costs. The coach has a certain amount of time to win, before the alum comes knocking, and donors. The athletes get dialed in with all the right classes and counselors., Easy street..........
Your post makes no sense. It reinforces my earlier point that there is nothing free about the education they are supposed to be getting.

I'm with the athletes on this one.
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Post by John Q. Public » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:09 am

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Post by jb914 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:40 am

In the case of the athletes who were compensated for coaching in his club program, Wigo said their pay amounted to $20 an hour — less than the going rate for such work — while the NCAA applied a limit of $12.
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Post by Trojanfan949 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:16 am

How about we make all sports full scholarship. I feel they should fix problems such as 11.7 scholarships for a roster of 35 kids in d1 baseball. However, I also feel that if someone is making money off your name, in this case, the school that person is attending and the NCAA then you should be compensated for it. Not everyone is living the life of a football/basketball player with a full ride and a food card.

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Post by insidetrinity » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:50 am

I believe making all athletes on full scholarships would create a title 9 issue because there would be a lot more men’s than women’s. Not 100% on that but I believe that’s a big obstacle.

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