Anti-State Sanctuary Movement

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Post by Professor Fate » Tue May 08, 2018 4:55 pm

John Q. Public wrote:QR_BBPOST MOF, as far as I know, no city in LA County has. But I don't think Lancaster's voted yet. But. You know. Lancaster.
Santa Clarita Could Become First City in L.A. County to Formally Oppose State’s ‘Sanctuary’ Laws

The Santa Clarita City Council is expected to take up a resolution Tuesday to oppose California’s “sanctuary” law and to file a brief in support of the Trump administration’s lawsuit against the state.

If the resolution passes, Santa Clarita will become what is believed to be the first city in Los Angeles County to officially oppose Senate Bill 54, which limits cooperation by local law enforcement with federal immigration authorities.

http://ktla.com/2018/05/08/santa-clarit ... uary-laws/
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Post by Professor Fate » Tue May 08, 2018 5:07 pm

Meanwhile:
Groups want Placer County to join sanctuary state opposition

PLACER COUNTY, Calif. (KCRA) —
Groups opposed to California's new sanctuary state law plan to showed up Tuesday morning at a packed Placer County Board of Supervisors meeting as they voiced their opinion in wanting to join a growing list of counties protesting the law protecting illegal immigrants.

However, the topic was not even on the morning agenda and the board chairman has been quoted as saying there is "no purpose" to even discuss the issue since it's already been litigated and will be resolved in the courts.

Even still, Republican groups sent out an advisory saying they would be in attendance to push the issue and ask to it to be included on the agenda for a public hearing later this month.

Several California cities and counties have weighed in on the issue of SB 54, which critics say violates federal law enforcement rights to information about undocumented immigrants in jail.

Republican candidate for governor, Travis Allen, spoke during the public comment as did others who waited for nearly two hours to speak.

http://www.kcra.com/article/groups-want ... n/20498120
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The room was packed as the video from KCRA shows.
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Post by Wabash » Tue May 08, 2018 5:16 pm

What do they get? Other than a cheap sound bite?
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Post by John Q. Public » Tue May 08, 2018 5:53 pm

They get to mow their own lawns and wash their own cars. Maybe get a job as a dishwasher.
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And...it's official. By a 5-0 vote the city of Santa Clarita has become the first in Los Angeles County to break with California’s sanctuary state law.
Emotions ran high at Tuesday night’s packed city council meeting, where 200 people reportedly signed up to make public comments. The meeting lasted into the early morning hours, as council members heard from community members over the issue.

...Comments got heated at times, but when the council voted unanimously to file a brief to opt out of the sanctuary state law, the audience erupted into triumphant cheers.

Santa Clarita is the fourth largest city in mostly Democratic-leaning Los Angeles County. It’s the latest city to voice its support for the Trump administration’s federal lawsuit against California over the sanctuary state law.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/05 ... state-law/
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Post by Wabash » Wed May 09, 2018 9:14 pm

How does that make their quality of life better?
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Post by John Q. Public » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 pm

Santa Clarita doesn't have its own PD, so it has the same effect that SB 54 has. None, whatsoever.
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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed May 09, 2018 11:52 pm

Exactly...

"The measure is largely symbolic. Santa Clarita contracts with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department for law enforcement services and is bound by that department's policies, including on immigration."

So why even bother? Raphael Sonenshein, executive director of the Pat Brown Institute for Public Affairs at Cal State Los Angeles:

"This is an opportunity to mobilize the conservative base around the issue that most animates the conservative base, which is immigration...it doesn't mean that the City Council has the power to change anything right now,...but Republicans see it as an issue that might bring people to the polls."

And mobilized they were:

"...counter-demonstrators wearing "We [heart] I.C.E." pins and President Trump neckties waved American flags and sang the national anthem. Occasionally they traveled over to the opposing side, shouting "socialists" and "Speak English, you're in the United States."

Raagib Quraishi, 30, a Santa Clarita resident and business owner, called Tuesday's resolution "useless." "This clearly does not effect any change in laws," he said. "It only brought out hate."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Leading the xenophobic charge was Councilman Bob Kellar, who unashamedly calls himself a "proud racist" :roll:

Keep up the good work, Prof, that's another addition to my list of places I'll never visit or spend money in =D>
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Post by Wabash » Thu May 10, 2018 5:17 am

Omar Bongo wrote:QR_BBPOST Keep up the good work, Prof, that's another addition to my list of places I'll never visit or spend money in
There was a time I went there frequently for business. I can describe the place in two words. BORRR......IIINNNGG!

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Post by John Q. Public » Thu May 10, 2018 6:12 am

I can understand people being opposed to the law, but these things are sounding like KKK rallies with MAGA hats substituted for the hoods.
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Post by Professor Fate » Thu May 10, 2018 1:19 pm

People are just frustrated with being taken advantage of, and watching the Democrats help illegals do it. Many of them see illegals at the border saying, "Well, we weren't invited in, and we didn't ask to come in, but to Hell with them, we're coming in anyway. How dare they try to keep us out?"
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Post by Wabash » Thu May 10, 2018 2:58 pm

It's just the opposite.

There is a businessman holding up a sign that says;

Help Wanted.
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Post by Omar Bongo » Thu May 10, 2018 3:38 pm

Professor Fate wrote:QR_BBPOST People are just frustrated with being taken advantage of
The irony is that while they vent away at the usual convenient targets, the people who are actually taking advantage of them are getting off scot-free...not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box
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Post by Professor Fate » Tue May 15, 2018 3:41 pm

Two more cities are scheduled to take up the sanctuary state laws issue tonight. They may join the 35 or more local jurisdictions that have come out against California's sanctuary legislation.

Meanwhile, President Trump has invited local leaders from California who are fighting the state's so-called sanctuary laws to a meeting at the White House on Wednesday.
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Post by Wabash » Tue May 15, 2018 3:56 pm

Yet another taxpayer funded publicity stunt.

This is the shiny object administration.
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Hanford votes to oppose California's 'sanctuary state' law, will support federal lawsuit

On Tuesday, Hanford picked its side when the councilmembers voted unanimously to break from the state's sanctuary city laws and support a federal lawsuit against it.

..."We do need immigration reform," said Councilmember Justin Mendes. "That's the job of Congress, that's not the job Kevin de Leon."

City council members say in addition to public safety concerns, they also wanted to send a message to the state capitol that they overstepped their bounds when passing these laws.

http://abc30.com/politics/hanford-votes ... w/3480309/
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Wabash wrote:QR_BBPOST Yet another taxpayer funded publicity stunt.
More cheap publicity. Good thing we have sane people in the legislature.
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Post by Vilepagan » Wed May 16, 2018 5:26 am

Professor Fate wrote:QR_BBPOST City council members say in addition to public safety concerns, they also wanted to send a message to the state capitol that they overstepped their bounds when passing these laws.
So the local governments are telling the state government that it "overstepped" when it passed a law, but they're aren't when they ignore a law that has been legally passed? Seems to me they're doing just as much "overstepping" as anyone.
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Post by John Q. Public » Wed May 16, 2018 7:00 am

Did the headline on the story say "Hanford votes to let the tomatoes pick themselves"?
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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed May 16, 2018 3:44 pm

Professor Fate wrote:QR_BBPOST They may join the 35 or more local jurisdictions that have come out against California's sanctuary legislation.
There's what, 40 million people in CA? The sum total of the number of people up in arms in those 35 local jurisdictions could probably hold their rally in a high school gym
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