Alaska warmed more than 2x as fast as the US mainland

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Re: Alaska warmed more than 2x as fast as the US mainland

Post by kramer » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:01 am

Fordama wrote: Yeah, so what about the actual science that she was referencing!

Fordama
Indeed. What about it!

Your "actual science" article says:
"Over the past 60 years, Alaska has warmed more than twice as rapidly as the rest of the U.S.,"

Now pay attention Einstein. The link I posted that said "Alaska is headed for an ice age" has a link in it to a real "actual science" that shows your "actual science" government PR paper claim is wrong! Alaska has NOT been warming over the past 60 years. Alaska has been warming over the past 47 years prior to the year 2000! Here it is:
The Open Atmospheric Science Journal, 2012, 6, 111-116

The First Decade of the New Century: A Cooling Trend for Most of Alaska
G. Wendler*, L. Chen and B. Moore

Alaska Climate Research Center, Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska, Fairbanks, AK 99775, USA

Abstract: During the first decade of the 21st century most of Alaska experienced a cooling shift, modifying the long-term warming trend, which has been about twice the global change up to this time. All of Alaska cooled with the exception of Northern Regions. This trend was caused by a change in sign of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), which became dominantly negative, weakening the Aleutian Low. This weakening results in less relatively warm air being advected from the Northern Pacific. This transport is especially important in winter when the solar radiation is weak. It is during this period that the strongest cooling was observed. In addition, the cooling was especially pronounced in Western Alaska, closest to the area of the center of the Aleutian Low. The changes seen in the reanalyzed data were confirmed from surface observations, both in the decrease of the North-South atmospheric pressure gradient, as well as the decrease in the mean wind speeds for stations located in the Bering Sea area.

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/toas ... TOASCJ.pdf

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Wabash, the follower wrote: There you go. Using facts again. Now you've done it.


A 'bitdh-slap' twofer? Cigar time... :D
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Re: Alaska warmed more than 2x as fast as the US mainland

Post by Troglodyte » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:14 am

The Kuroshio current is the Pacific version of the Gulf Stream and along with the North Pacific ocean gyre has a greater effect on western Alaska's climate than most other factors. It has cyclic variations similar to the El Nino effect..
the Kuroshio current
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Re: Alaska warmed more than 2x as fast as the US mainland

Post by kramer » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:10 pm

Fordama wrote: Yeah, so what about the actual science that she was referencing!

Fordama
Indeed. What about it!

Your "actual science" article says:
"Over the past 60 years, Alaska has warmed more than twice as rapidly as the rest of the U.S.,"

Now pay attention Einstein. The link I posted that said "Alaska is headed for an ice age" has a link in it to a real "actual science" that shows your "actual science" government PR paper claim is wrong! Alaska has NOT been warming over the past 60 years. Alaska has been warming over the past 47 years prior to the year 2000! Here it is:
The Open Atmospheric Science Journal, 2012, 6, 111-116

The First Decade of the New Century: A Cooling Trend for Most of Alaska
G. Wendler*, L. Chen and B. Moore

Alaska Climate Research Center, Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska, Fairbanks, AK 99775, USA

Abstract: During the first decade of the 21st century most of Alaska experienced a cooling shift, modifying the long-term warming trend, which has been about twice the global change up to this time. All of Alaska cooled with the exception of Northern Regions. This trend was caused by a change in sign of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), which became dominantly negative, weakening the Aleutian Low. This weakening results in less relatively warm air being advected from the Northern Pacific. This transport is especially important in winter when the solar radiation is weak. It is during this period that the strongest cooling was observed. In addition, the cooling was especially pronounced in Western Alaska, closest to the area of the center of the Aleutian Low. The changes seen in the reanalyzed data were confirmed from surface observations, both in the decrease of the North-South atmospheric pressure gradient, as well as the decrease in the mean wind speeds for stations located in the Bering Sea area.

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/toas ... TOASCJ.pdf

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Wabash, the follower wrote: There you go. Using facts again. Now you've done it.


A 'bitdh-slap' twofer? Cigar time... :D
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Re: Alaska warmed more than 2x as fast as the US mainland

Post by Troglodyte » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:12 am

The tune is weakening....

Patrick Michaels: Dialing back global warming apocalypse
Published: OC Register: Jan. 21, 2013 Updated: Jan. 22, 2013 9:19 a.m.
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By PATRICK J. MICHAELS / Director of the Center for the Study of Science, Cato Institute

My greener friends are increasingly troubled by the lack of a rise in recent global surface temperatures. Using monthly data measured as the departure from long-term averages, there's been no significant warming trend since the fall of 1996. In other words, we are now in our 17th year of flat temperatures.

Since 1900, the world has seen one other period of similar temperature stagnation (actually a slight cooling) that lasted for 30 years and ended around 1976. The current one is happening with much more putative warming "pressure," because the atmosphere's carbon-dioxide content is much higher than it was in mid-century.

Science historians have repeatedly documented that we are particularly reluctant to abandon widely held views, or scientific paradigms. When professional advancement (i.e., research money) is particularly dependent upon a certain view (we wouldn't spend billions on climate research unless it was important, right?); it's even harder to let go, but that is what we may be seeing.

People are beginning, cautiously, to dial back 21st century warming because there has been none. Because dreaded sea-level rise is also proportional, those estimates are going to have to come down, too.

One of these years, the upcoming end of the world from global warming is going to be officially canceled, to be replaced by a new apocalypse, which I predict will be called "acid oceans," or something like that.
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