kramer wrote:All I'm doing is pointing out the weaknesses, fraud, and contradictions in the science.
Vilepagan wrote:No, obviously that's not all you're doing. You're inventing absurd and speculative political motives for those who disagree with you...for example:
And there is a reason for it. The solutions to AGW are a global leftist government, redistribution of wealth both within and among nations, a radical lifestyle change that will be much much lower than what we have today, etc. I want to **** and destroy this leftist trojan horse and that is why I point out the BS in the climate science.
Vilepagan wrote:These statements have no connection whatever to climate science, logic, or reason.
They may not have a connection to climate science but policy makers are looking to leverage climate science in order to push their leftist AGW solutions that I listed.
And none of what I said above is invented. It's what I've read (actually, it's only some of what I've read) over and over from environmental books and policy papers (and MSM articles).
Vilepagan wrote: They are however the reason your arguments are viewed with skepticism.
reason?" No they aren't. Ever read my comments where I pointed out climate scientists saying things like "hide the decline," "we got to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period," or them losing or deleting data and deleting emails in responses to FOI requests? There is data tampering, there is unethical science, and there is exaggeration.
Have you checked out my sig?...>If not, is says 80% of the ozone measurements was either faked or incompletely done. If scientists can get away with faking data or using incomplete data for the ozone issue, then they can fake the temperature (or any other) data just as easily and get away with it. (I'm still waiting for the MSM to do a thorough investigation into the faked data...). And indeed, they are adjusting the temp data and in some cases, it's been adjusted several times. And oddly enough, they tend to cool the older data and warm up the newer data. How convenient is that?...
Anyway, I've posted enough information here over the years to show that climate science is tainted by fraud, exaggerations, contradictions, etc. If this is 'science' that you can trust to you leftists, then I don't know what to say.