The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburgers.

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The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburgers.

Postby kramer » Sat May 04, 2013 3:09 pm

Would You Give Up Eating Hamburgers to Stop Climate Change?


"...we are incinerating the planet and dooming future generations simply because too many of us like to eat cheeseburgers,

http://www.alternet.org/environment/wou ... ate-change



I thought redistributing wealth both within and among nations was the solution... :wink:


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Re: The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburg

Postby Luca » Sat May 04, 2013 3:43 pm

Restricting cheeseburgers would adversely affect the poor and especially women, eventually turning them into cannibalistic prostitutes ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you would probably laugh at that because you are a tax avoiding American white guy..................

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Re: The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburg

Postby Parrotpaul » Sat May 04, 2013 3:58 pm

Put me down for a hundred bucks.

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Re: The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburg

Postby sbayhills » Sat May 04, 2013 4:11 pm

Luca wrote:Restricting cheeseburgers would adversely affect the poor and especially women, eventually turning them into cannibalistic prostitutes ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you would probably laugh at that because you are a tax avoiding American white guy..................

(This probably won't make sense to everyone who reads this thread. You had to be there) ................Luca


I got it. Glad you pointed that out before he did......although you forgot to mention that they probably would have dark skin.

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Re: The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburg

Postby Parrotpaul » Thu May 09, 2013 4:37 am

Cherry-pickers try to discredit climate-change survey....here's a look at someone who says the cherry-pickers need to look more closely at what the survey actually did and what the survey concludes.

Cherry picking one survey to discredit a survey of scientists on climate change

Stewart is trying to stack the deck here. He focuses on one small aspect of the survey — the result of a relatively small sample of climate scientists — while ignoring the broader result that found a substantial majority of scientists believed that humans have made a significant contribution to climate change. Moreover, he ignores the many other surveys that have found results very similar to the survey he referenced, whatever its possible flaws.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios on this claim, but in the end settled on Four. Stewart, after all, is chairman of an environmental panel. He said the results of this survey have been “repeatedly discounted.” He should know that beyond this single survey, there are many more that back up its findings on the broad support among scientists — particularly climate researchers — regarding the impact that humans have on climate change.



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Re: The solution to climate change is to stop eating hamburg

Postby kramer » Thu May 09, 2013 7:32 am

Parrotpaul wrote:... He focuses on one small aspect of the survey — the result of a relatively small sample of climate scientists — while ignoring the broader result that found a substantial majority of scientists believed that humans have made a significant contribution to climate change.



Those substantial majority of scientists ALL get the same historical temperature data from the same three organizations (NASA, NOAA, and HadCrut). So it really doesn't mean much what this "substantial majority" thinks because they are all looking at what these 3 orgs put out.

And we know for a fact that the data from these 3 organizations has been adjusted and readjusted, that the results of the adjustments has been to cool the past and warm the present, that data has been lost, that they have conspired to keep it from skeptics, etc.

In short, a scenario where a substantial majority of scientists thinks humans are warming the Earth because they all get the same data from 3 orgs. is no different than say, 'a substantial majority of citizens' thinking Republicans are bad because most of them get their info from the leftist biased MSM.
“We should have been warned by the CFC/ozone affair because the corruption of science in that was so bad that something like 80% of the measurements being made during that time were either faked, or incompetently done.”

- Scientist James Lovelock

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