Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

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Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby kramer » Tue May 02, 2017 9:49 am

From the telegraph, March 7, 2009:


Prince Charles: 100 months to save the world

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... world.html


"The heir to the throne told an audience of industrialists and environmentalists at St James's Palace last night that he had calculated that we have just 96 months left to save the world."

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 38049.html

"He had calculated"... Science! :D


What is the problem?
Capitalism and consumerism have brought the world to the brink of economic and environmental collapse, the Prince of Wales has warned in a grandstand speech which set out his concerns for the future of the planet.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 38049.html


What is the right political economic system to replace capitalism? He and virtually every other 'scientist' or policy 'expert' never say but you can be sure that it's socialism, the political system that was pushed by the communists in Russia before it collapsed.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby Wabash » Tue May 02, 2017 10:25 am

Russia was a communist state. Despite the name they were not socialists.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby John Q. Public » Tue May 02, 2017 10:27 am

I don't know anything about his claims or his reasoning (good way to start a dead thread), but capitalism and socialism are economic concepts, not political systems.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby MDDad » Tue May 02, 2017 11:03 am

Reading those articles led me to a few critical observations:

1. It’s typical that the first two responses to kramer’s post addressed socialism and communism rather than the meat of what Prince Charles said. The thread went right off the rails in only 38 minutes.

2. I guess this is what you get when you have a king-in-waiting with nothing else to do.

3. While the rest of the world’s top climate scientists with their sophisticated models and algorithms don’t presume to calculate when the planet’s tipping point might come, Prince Charles and his royal abacus has been able to narrow it down to July, 2017. Now that’s precision. He makes all those other experts look pretty incompetent.

4. I would dearly love to see the prince’s “calculations”, although I’m sure they’re too complex for me to comprehend.

5. If the “calculations” of other highly qualified climate scientists, like Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio would corroborate Prince Charles’ July, 2017 date, I’d be really concerned.

6. We only have 9½ weeks of those 96 months remaining, so we’d better get damn serious about this.

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Postby MDDad » Tue May 02, 2017 6:05 pm

That makes 14 straight posts that are off-topic and completely unrelated to Prince Charles's pronouncement.

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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby John Q. Public » Tue May 02, 2017 6:16 pm

I noticed that.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby Fordama » Wed May 03, 2017 5:07 am

Charles ain't exactly Hawkings.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/tag/prince-charles/

"Prince of Pseudoscience" is my favorite title.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby John Q. Public » Wed May 03, 2017 9:06 am

MDDad wrote:It’s typical that the first two responses to kramer’s post addressed socialism and communism rather than the meat of what Prince Charles said. The thread went right off the rails in only 38 minutes.

Typical of what happens when an OP doesn't explain itself, maybe. This was the only thing Kramer said that could be replied to without leaving the site three times.

kramer wrote:What is the right political economic system to replace capitalism? He and virtually every other 'scientist' or policy 'expert' never say but you can be sure that it's socialism, the political system that was pushed by the communists in Russia before it collapsed.

Six posts in and I still have no idea what "the meat of what Prince Charles said" was. Or what Fordy's point was.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby kramer » Wed May 03, 2017 11:13 am

"Six posts in and I still have no idea what "the meat of what Prince Charles said" was. Or what Fordy's point was."

Seriously?
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He "calculated" that there was only 100 months left to save the world from capitalism back in '09. So how do you think he envisions saving the world? By replacing capitalisim with something else. But what? He didn't say but its clear its socialisim.


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Postby Fordama » Wed May 03, 2017 11:18 am

I agree with kramer here.

It should be obvious that we both think Charles is a bit of a nutter.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby kramer » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:54 pm

We're still here! Yay! \:D/


Meanwhile, the Prince "campaigned to alter climate-change agreements without disclosing his private estate had an offshore financial interest in what he was promoting."

Full article here
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41901175

Image that! Somebody who cares so much about the future of humanity is actually trying to profit off of it! Sounds like he learned from Nobel prize 'winner' Al Gore...
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:47 am

Kramer. $113,000. His family owns England. Think for a second.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby kramer » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:51 pm

Already did and it doesn't matter... He was pushing the alarmist talk and standing to profit from it. Seeing the same things with Soros, Steyer, Gore et al.
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Re: Prince Charles: Just few months (end coming July '17) to save the world

Postby Fordama » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:08 pm

Kramer only believes in capitalism if it is environmentally damaging.
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