Mass shooting in San Bernardino

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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:54 am

I'm not claiming to know the motive, only speculating, but I've been to San Bernardino, Senator, and it isn't Paris. They got the biggest number of kills since Sandy Hook, but as far as messages go, they could have done better. Like the mall right down Orange Show or the local Walmart last Friday. And I wouldn't think that a terrorist with any pride would target San Berdoodoo of all places. Yes, it was an easy target and it was like shooting fish in a bucket, but unless they were going for the "Hey, it can happen anywhere" angle, I wouldn't suspect terrorism.

But... there's also the fact that it was a Christmas party. Maybe there was a message in that. Or maybe he'd been told Merry Christmas one too many times and snapped. Or he was pissed off because they didn't have a Ramadan party. Or maybe there really is a War on Christmas.

But I'm still guessing workplace violence.
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Post by Donray » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:43 am

Muslim terrorist attack.

They are Muslim and they are terrorists.

This is similar to the Paris attack.

The Democrats (Obama) will try to make this something other then Radical Muslim terrorism.

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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:01 am

If that's what the evidence winds up pointing to, it'll be pretty hard for them to spin it as anything else.


Listening to the press conference for a minute, it was definitely planned. And they had more ammo at home, so there could have been more targets. We'll see.
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Post by joefutbol » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:05 am

Donray wrote:Muslim terrorist attack.

They are Muslim and they are terrorists.

This is similar to the Paris attack.

The Democrats (Obama) will try to make this something other then Radical Muslim terrorism.
No, it was a heterosexual terrorist attack.

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Post by MDDad » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:09 am

JQP wrote:But I'm still guessing workplace violence.
That may be a stretch. When a disgruntled employee goes to shoot up his workplace, it's pretty unusual for his Muslim wife to put on a flack jacket and go blasting with him.

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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:10 am

Heterosexual 909ers. Even worse.
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Post by Parrotpaul » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:12 am

There are witness reports that even though they wore masks, the male was identified by people at the party.
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Post by joefutbol » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:13 am

Brooke wrote:A woman who lives in an apartment in Redlands said that she was worried because three or four Middle Eastern men had moved into the apartment next door in the last two weeks. There were numerous packages being delivered and the men were doing something in the garage late into the nights.
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Post by crayegg » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:14 am

So I guess the take-away is Muslim marriages are stronger than others...

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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:15 am

MDDad wrote:That may be a stretch.
I could be wrong. I have no problem with admitting it. We'll see what the evidence says.
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by Parrotpaul » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:17 am

That may be a stretch. When a disgruntled employee goes to shoot up his workplace, it's pretty unusual for his Muslim wife to put on a flack jacket and go blasting with him.

All of this stuff was unusual a few years ago... I'll go with a workplace event as well.
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by Tommy Tar » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:53 am

Why did they go home and not ditch the car?
Why did they video the shooting?
Why did they re-arm and leave?
Was their a second target that they were going to when the police saw the car?
Why did CAIR rush to make a public statement before the shooters names were made public?

If it comes out that the main target was a mall (Inland Center) but he wanted to kill his coworkers at their Christmas party first and them move on to the main target we have a terrorist attack.
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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:59 am

Why did they video the shooting?

The police chief said there was no evidence of that.


Why did CAIR rush to make a public statement before the shooters names were made public?

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Geez!
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by Donray » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:17 am

There are some idiots that think Fort Hood was workplace violence and had nothing to do with Islam.

In the case of fort hood he was yelling 'Alaho Akbar' while killing people. But this was a workplace incident and not a Muslim terrorist attack.

Can't solve the problem until one admits that the barbaric Muslim religion is part of the problem. And keep in mid that Christianity was a barbaric religion at one time. Maybe in another 500 years Islam won't be so barbaric.

Why are people afraid to blame the Muslim religion and want to blame gun control?

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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by joefutbol » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:28 am

Because the overwhelming majority of mass shootings in this country are not committed by Muslims.

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Post by afan95 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:29 am

Just thinking about the picture posted by Paul in the Colorado thread of the Islam woman with a baby and the guy with a gun and the confederate flag...and the words Good or Bad or something like that.

This woman who came from Qatar pretty much fits the description of the Islam woman with the baby.

Gonna have to do some paradigm shifting now with the San Bernardino shooting in my opinion.
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by afan95 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:33 am

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2453370

Well I'll be damned Paul...no shooting from the hip on this one and I guess it takes 17 more lives killed by a terrorist for someone in Washington to figure it out.
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:40 am

If more terrorists had guns.... SMH

Congress also disapproved the CDC's request to make it legal to research gun violence. SMFH
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by Tommy Tar » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:56 am

Why did CAIR rush to make a public statement before the shooters names were made public?

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Geez!


I'm very happy they condemn the killing, but how did CAIR get the brother in-law of the shooter at the press conference before the names went public?
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Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:05 pm

I'd imagine the brother-in-law got them. He'd have known before anybody else would have.
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