New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

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Re: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

Post by MDDad » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:14 pm

Omar wrote:Are you saying if a law doesn't prevent every instance of a crime then the law is ineffective?
Not at all. I just think those hoping for a sure fix will be greatly disappointed when the next dozen mass shootings happen. In a nation of almost 300 million firearms, you probably can't plug enough of the holes to prevent a guy who really wants a gun from getting one.

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Re: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

Post by Troglodyte » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:15 pm

If all the laws were truly effective there would be no violence or crime..
As it now stands the perps are well away before the cops even get there.
Then the lawyers, on both sides, twist the facts and the perps get off...
Meanwhile a person will get busted for trying to defend themselves..
We need to start with a sane justice system, not the convoluted mess we now have.
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Re: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

Post by ShiftyMutt » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:22 pm

Should probably get "executive order" and "executive action" clear. I think this is why a lot of people on the right are in a twist.

"An executive order is a specific type of presidential action — an official, legally binding mandate passed down from the president to federal agencies under the executive branch. Executive orders are printed in the Federal Register, according to the U.S. National Archives, and they’re numbered consecutively for the sake of keeping them straight.

On the other hand, an executive action is just that: any action taken by a president. This term is more of a catch-all, experts say. Executive actions can include executive orders, but they can also encompass presidential memorandums, proclamations, or any number of other ways the president directs the operations of the executive branch."

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Re: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:58 pm

MDDad wrote:I just think those hoping for a sure fix will be greatly disappointed when the next dozen mass shootings happen
I don't know anyone who thinks there is a "sure fix" to this problem or to violent crime in general...do you?
MDDad wrote:In a nation of almost 300 million firearms, you probably can't plug enough of the holes to prevent a guy who really wants a gun from getting one
Obviously, but again, is that a reason to do nothing? Most of those guns you cite are not in circulation, and research shows that weapons recently introduced into the marketplace figure disproportionately in crime.
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Re: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence

Post by Wabash » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:49 am

Since I'm not paranoid, mentally unhinged, or a criminal I have no problems with the president's executive orders.

What is frightening are the reactions by many so called responsible gun owners. The usual claptrap of fighting off tyranny and what not.
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