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Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:38 am
by cruiser
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto personally invites Trump to Mexico for a sit down
to get to know each other and reach common ground?

What gives? Why would Nieto do this? The majority of Mexicans hate Trump. Does he know something the American public does not?

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:57 am
by MDDad
Maybe Pena-Nieto wants to break the ice and grease the skids on the off-chance Trump will win in November. Otherwise, the two sides seem to have little in common. Trump getting invited to Mexico is kind of like Hillary getting invited to an ethics conference.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:33 am
by ShiftyMutt
Apparently Clinton was invited, too.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:25 pm
by Wabash
I'm sure Mexicans haven't forgotten about his comments regarding Mexicans and the Mexican government. I have no doubt they will be polite and professional and forget about him as soon as he leaves.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:31 pm
by Reconquista Primero
The Vulcans have a saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
Spock, Star Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:37 pm
by Wabash
Not even remotely the same.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:09 pm
by Reconquista Primero
Wabash: How so? Spock's comment was made about Capt. Kirk, who had slammed the Klingons, going to Klingon on a diplomatic mission.
Likewise, Nixon, after slamming China, went to China on a diplomatic mission.
Here, Trump, after slamming Mexico, has gone to Mexico on a personal diplomatic mission.
Before wasting electrons answering, keep in mind my post was about a line in a movie and my original post and this response is all in humor.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:25 pm
by John Q. Public
He wants Pena Nieto's taco bowl recipe.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:09 pm
by Wabash
Reconquista Primero wrote:Wabash: How so?
I kind of figured there was a sarcastic tone.

The major differences are:

Trumps has mocked Mexico for over a year. Nixon didn't do that.

In 1972, an American president hadn't visited the People's Republic of China since it was established in 1949. That is not the case here.

It was especially notable because we were heavily involved in the Cold War. The trip also helped strengthen our relationship with the PRC against the Soviet Union. Nixon realized the communist threat was not monolithic. The PRC hated the USSR almost as much as us.

Nixon never accused China of sending its criminals into the United States and China was corrupt.

Those are the major differences.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:21 pm
by Reconquista Primero
Wabash: I guess you missed the part where I said it was in humor.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:33 pm
by Wabash
I know. I thought I addressed that in my first line.

The rest was in case any of the Trumpettes on this board might want a valid point.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:07 pm
by Wabash
Apparently when asked about Mexico paying for the wall, The Donald stated the subject didn't come up.

So much for another major campaign promise.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:13 pm
by MDDad
Wabash, we get it already. In your view, everything Donald Trump says or does is wrong, sinister and evil-intentioned, while everything Hillary says or does is laudable, transparent and ethical. Unless you have something new to say, there's really no need for you to post your opinions again until after the election.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:21 pm
by Fordama
P.J. O'Rourke has a line in one of his books referring to something being "more fun than watching the entire Mexican air force crash into a propane plant."

This has that feel to me.

Fordama

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:38 pm
by Wabash
MDDad wrote:Wabash, we get it already. In your view, everything Donald Trump says or does is wrong, sinister and evil-intentioned, while everything Hillary says or does is laudable, transparent and ethical. Unless you have something new to say, there's really no need for you to post your opinions again until after the election.
Not everything in either case.

Feel free to put me on ignore. I won't mind.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:08 pm
by Omar Bongo
I hear his "Make America Great Again" sombrero didn't go over too well

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:13 pm
by Omar Bongo
Wabash wrote:Apparently when asked about Mexico paying for the wall, The Donald stated the subject didn't come up.
Hmm...Nieto is saying he made it clear at the start of their talk that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall. Someone is lying (again)

John Podesta, Clinton's campaign chairman:

"Donald Trump has made his outlandish policy of forcing Mexico to pay for his giant wall the centerpiece of his campaign. But at the first opportunity to make good on his offensive campaign promises, Trump choked."

"What we saw today from a man who claims to be the ultimate 'deal maker' is that he doesn't have the courage to advocate for his campaign promises when he's not in front of a friendly crowd"

Podesta later added: "It turns out Trump didn't just choke, he got beat in the room and lied about it."


Ouch

http://us.cnn.com/2016/08/30/politics/d ... index.html

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:49 pm
by Fordama
I wonder if they shared a taco bowl?

Image

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:46 pm
by John Q. Public
Wabash wrote:Feel free to put me on ignore. I won't mind.
If a Wabash posts in the forest and everybody has him on Ignore, __________________________________?

Fill in your own last line. I know what mine is.

Re: Trump going to Mexico

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:51 pm
by Wabash
His posts are still there.