"the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

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Post by Bick » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:27 pm

Playthegame wrote:The reality is that the Obama administration was so incompetent at everything that even a guy with "no experience" will accomplish far more than then his predecessor.

My Predictions for Trumps term(s)

1.) Higher GDP
2.) Better health, longer lives, higher survivorship
3.) Increased real wages
4.) Lower welfare rate
5.) Greater home ownership
6.) Big increase in labor participation rate
7.) More full time jobs
8.) Crippling of terrorist regimes
9.) Better relations with China and Russia
10.) Improved performance of US students
11.) Better healthcare for Veterans
12.) Higher savings rates for US households
13.) Improved trade deals causing a sharp rise in Cap Ex and GDP at the 6% by the end of 2019
14.) Large increase in US wealth and productivity by the end of 2019.

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Good stuff PTG. Ignore the no accounts who won't take a position.

Maybe start a thread that covers those 14 items. It'd be fun to spend some time covering something positive...regardless if they all come to fruition or not.

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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by ShiftyMutt » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:47 pm

Playthegame wrote:
My Predictions for Trumps term(s)
I predict impeachment. No seriously.

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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Bick » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:07 pm

When? Grounds?

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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by John Q. Public » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Our future (Republican, no less) president (and Sarah Palin!) praising the guy who made Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden household names. Whodathunkit?
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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Bick » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:30 pm

Now THAT would be a fun discussion. Having a hard time figuring this Assange guy out. Again...sounds like another thread.

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Post by ShiftyMutt » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:25 pm

Bick wrote:When? Grounds?
-He's too cozy with Russia

-I think there's something in his business interests that will come up.

-He'll slip up on something, he's not disciplined or diplomatic.

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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:01 am

He's pointed out to me that there are an lot of ways a president could totally screw up that wouldn't be impeachable offenses.
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Post by Wabash » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:40 am

Playthegame wrote:
6.) Big increase in labor participation rate
Except there has been no discussion of the "real" unemployment rate since November. Trump (and just about all the other screaming heads) have stopped talking about the labor participation rate.
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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Fordama » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:37 am

The reality is that the Obama administration was so incompetent at everything that even a guy with "no experience" will accomplish far more than then his predecessor.

My Predictions for Trumps term(s)

1.) Higher GDP

Not much of a prediction as it's been growing every year under Obama.

2.) Better health, longer lives, higher survivorship

That's been going on for decade regardless of who has become President. The President has had little to do with this historically. Under Obama, twenty million more Americans were able to get health care and join the rest of us in the constantly increasing positive health outcomes.

3.) Increased real wages

That'd be nice to see the end of trickle-down economics. Real wages have been stagnant since Reagan took control of the White House.

4.) Lower welfare rate

How? My guess is that if it does, it's just because they cut welfare, not because they help the poor.

5.) Greater home ownership

Great, they're going to lower the value of my home. That's just peachy. How are they going to do that?

6.) Big increase in labor participation rate

How? Are they going to just kill off all those waves of baby boomers that are retiring Logan's Run style?

7.) More full time jobs

Not much of a prediction as the number of full time jobs has been increasing since the Bush crash in 2008.

8.) Crippling of terrorist regimes

By supporting Assad?

9.) Better relations with China and Russia

Well Russia, yeah. We elected their boy to the job.
China--that's already going south since Trump won the election.

10.) Improved performance of US students

No President has anything to do with that. This shows that you simply are out of touch with reality.

11.) Better healthcare for Veterans

Maybe. Ever read the Rand Corporation's report on the VA health care system? It doesn't actually jive with what the stories that are popular with the media.

12.) Higher savings rates for US households

That's been steadily increasing since 2005 already.

13.) Improved trade deals causing a sharp rise in Cap Ex and GDP at the 6% by the end of 2019

Maybe. Maybe not.

14.) Large increase in US wealth and productivity by the end of 2019.

Through magic? The higher cost of domestic manufacturing that Trumpophiles have been trumpeting is going to cause a jump in consumer costs. I'm old enough to remember high inflation. That's something that retiring and near retiring baby boomers will not like in the least.

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Post by Parrotpaul » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:30 am

Nice job, Ford. :cheers:
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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:07 pm

Now he's going after a Japanese company for not building cars here. Interesting. How much longer until his tweets start losing their effect?

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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:10 pm

And how much longer until he starts going after clothing companies, including his own?
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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:28 pm

Ok, here's a bizarre twist for you. Seems there's a bunch of "__________ vs. United States" lawsuits over Hillary's email server. Guess who gets to defend them.
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Post by Wabash » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:08 pm

His embracing Assange over our intel community is a SMH moment.

Even more curious is Hannity's interview and the slobbering display. All of a sudden the theft of one's private communications is a public service.

From the interview.
You exposed a level of corruption that I for 30 years on the radio as a conservative knew existed, and I was shocked at the level of corruption, duplicity, dishonesty, ma­nipu­la­tion,” Hannity told Assange. “Knowing what WikiLeaks revealed about the Podesta emails on Clinton corruption, on pay to play, on Bernie Sanders being cheated, all of this is revealed. Not a lot of this was covered.
At some point in time one hopes all those "patriots" realize the group they support does not have America's best interest at heart.
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Post by broman » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:15 pm

The intelligence community was all in on Russia attempting to influence the election at todays hearings. Waiting for Trump to spill the beans on his secret info he holds.

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Post by John Q. Public » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:19 pm

Does anyone know for sure that they weren't Muslim hackers from Kenya?
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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Bick » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:39 pm

Parrotpaul wrote:Nice job, Ford. :cheers:
A better job would be to determine objective criteria to measure against. An outstanding job would be to discuss which policies / decisions have / will impact(ed) those measurements. A best in class job would be to do it objectively without the paradigm of partisan politics.

There's quite a few players on this board from both sides of the aisle that seem to have the wherewithal to tackle this.

JQP...maybe try a non-partisan thread and bounce the troll(s)?

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Post by Parrotpaul » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:51 pm

JQP...maybe try a non-partisan thread and bounce the troll(s)?

Feel free to author such a thread. Of which trolls do you speak?
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Post by Bick » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:03 pm

Anyone engaging in troll-like behavior. There's plenty of threads to troll without having nearly every one go that route.

Thought it might be fun to have a productive discussion v. having everything colored with anti-Obama or anti-Trump. Who knows...might even boost traffic here.

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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Wabash » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:30 pm

John Q. Public wrote:How much longer until his tweets start losing their effect?
Tweeting appeals to those who are not willing to delay gratification. Sort of an arrested development mindset.

I would like him to start acting presidential instead of a petulant 12 year old.
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