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Post by Wabash » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:02 am

Despite the two idiot Senators from Texas voting against aid to the victims of Hurricane Sandy, let' hope help gets to these people.

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Re: "the inevitable disaster that will be the Trump Administration"

Post by Wabash » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:36 am

For those who claim to dislike socialism.
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Post by John Q. Public » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:16 am

On the other hand, there's this Deputy from who knows where. Says on Twitter that he rescued people till he dropped. There's probably a whole lot more just like him. :cheers:
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Post by John Q. Public » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:18 pm

Off topic, but speaking of Houston, picture from the freeway there.

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Post by Wabash » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:25 pm

If that is real it gives meaning to the term land shark.
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Post by Professor Fate » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:29 pm

There was a movie like that ("Bait" from 2012) where a tsunami flushed several sharks into an underground grocery store, with the trapped customers.

In this case, as if swimming with gators and snakes wasn't enough.
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Post by MDDad » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:16 pm

There was a movie like that ("Bait" from 2012) where a tsunami flushed several sharks into an underground grocery store, with the trapped customers.
Yeah, it won the Oscar for best picture, didn't it?

So now we're posting pictures of collapsed firemen and sharks swimming up freeways in a thread about the Trump disaster? Is he somehow responsible for the hurricane too?

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Re: Hurricane Harve

Post by John Q. Public » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:59 pm

Presto Change-o! It's no longer Donald's fault. Happy now?
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Post by broman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:34 pm

Wabash wrote:Despite the two idiot Senators from Texas voting against aid to the victims of Hurricane Sandy, let' hope help gets to these people.
Rep. Peter King, whose district encompasses parts of Long Island, tweeted that he wouldn’t “abandon Texas the way Ted Cruz did New York;” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie called the Texas lawmakers “hypocrites;” and Rep. Frank LoBiondo of the Garden State tweeted that despite the stance of his Texas colleagues on the Sandy relief package, he would support emergency money for their constituents.
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Post by broman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:38 pm

President Trump defended his controversial pardon of former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio on Monday during a Category 4 hurricane.....

Addressing the specific timing of his pardon — which seemed to embody a classic “news dump,” coming as the nation focused on the impending storm — the president said he actually imagined the controversial pardon would have attracted even more media attention, because of the Harvey coverage.

“Actually in the middle of a hurricane, even though it was a Friday evening, I assumed the ratings would be far higher than they would be normally,” he said.
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Post by Fordama » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:32 pm

Speaking of Trump and flooding, he just removed the rules that government agencies in coastal areas have to plan for rising sea levels because, well, he's an idiot.
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Post by Professor Fate » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:58 pm

Come on Fordama. The "Trump is an idiot" thread is the next one down.
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Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:00 pm

With Trump all roads eventually lead to idiot
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Post by John Q. Public » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:26 pm

Welp, Politifact says the shark is fake. At least I didn't send it out to everyone I know.

Kind of out of their department but I guess they needed something to do.
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Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:40 pm

This is something that wouldn't even have entered my mind since Nixon was president, but I wonder what Donald will do when he finds out that Harris county (Houston) went for Hillary by double digits :hide:
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Post by John Q. Public » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:12 pm

And the Houston PD put out a bulletin saying they won't be checking citizenship papers at shelters.

But never fear, Don's on his way. To storm ravaged Austin. The golf courses in Houston are probably washed out.
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Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:50 pm

Austin?! He lost Travis County by 40 points...hope he bought his earplugs :hide: :hide:
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Re: Hurricane Harve

Post by John Q. Public » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:58 am

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Re: Hurricane Harve

Post by not4u13 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:42 am

It's hard for me to know what everyone is seeing on the national news, but here locally, Harvey remains the lead story on every news program. The devastation is very real. It will take years to recover and some areas will never be the same again.

Wife and I were in New Orleans this past weekend as Harvey was extending the Gulf of Mexico to Houston. We talked to some people who were from a cruise ship that was diverted from Galveston to New Orleans. They lived in Houston and had no idea what was happening to their home. Their one week anniversary cruise had turned into a two week as the port of Galveston remained closed. Even if the port were open, all roads to Houston were closed and nobody was sure if their vehicles left at port had been flooded out. Cruise ship connectivity to the outside world is pretty limited, so their stop in New Orleans helped them confirm that their extended family was safe, but nobody could get them any information on their home.

I live north of Dallas where a lot of flood victims are seeking refuge. Those arriving most recently are from Brownsville.

The death toll is now at 39 and likely to rise as water begins to recede and people can start returning to assess damage. More bodies are likely to be found. Harvey is no longer a tropical storm but it continues to drop torrents of rain, now in Tennessee and Ohio. Additionally, 5 days from now, we'll learn the path of Irma, a category 3 churning in the Atlantic and expected to become a Category 4 by Thursday. The European models show it turning into the Gulf of Mexico. The American models shows it turning up the East Coast toward the Carolinas. I have a kid living along the coast in North Carolina. I don't know what to wish for.

Donations are coming in fast with celebrities and businesses pledging millions. People who are hearing stories of past failed relief efforts of the Red Cross are looking to funnel their donations elsewhere. Be sure to check Charity Navigator if you are looking for a reputable organization that will provide aid. I'm playing the waiting game. The needs are great and they will continue to grow. I live close enough I am starting to think about how I can go down there and assist with the clean up and rebuilding effort, especially as the area leaves the headlines and the money and assistance starts to "dry up".

Where I live, there are currently massive fuel shortages. Nearly every gas station around me is out of fuel. Those that have any, have lines in excess of one hour. My wife sat in line for over two hours at Costco to fill up. She was below a quarter tank. There are stories of people filling 50 gallon drums. The shortage is mostly due to a panic. If people had not made a run on fuel, there would have been only sporadic station closures and virtually no lines to worry about. Unfortunately, that's not the current condition.

The devastation is real. People have died and others are suffering. Now they have to worry about being scammed. Texas does not have strong laws to protect consumers from fraud, especially construction fraud. There is no California State Contractors License Board equivalent. It's all "buyer beware". Contractors are known to start jobs and then walk away if they get a more lucrative one. Maybe they come back, maybe they don't, but they have your money because they won't start until they get paid. There are good ones out there and they are going to be very busy, allowing the inexperienced and unscrupulous to swoop in and take advantage.

The situation is bad folks and although the storm has left, it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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Re: Hurricane Harve

Post by not4u13 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:54 am

Another update on Harvey. Hard to believe nobody here is even talking about it.

The death toll has risen to 44. Donations keep coming in, but it seems some are just cleaning out their closets and sending everything. Volunteers are often left to sort through well intentioned donations to find the few items useful in this state of the recovery effort. People in Houston don't need jackets.

There continue to be power problems and water quality problems, even in areas where floodwaters have receded. Crews are working hard to fix these issues, but it's a slow process. Some areas are going to see new flooding over the net few days as water is being released from overflowing reservoirs. Some residents in nearby Katy, TX are angry. Seems there was some sort of a plan that included intentionally flooding certain areas, that included their homes, during extreme storms. It also seems few were aware of this. Had they been aware, they may have done more to protect themselves and their belongings. Some may not have chosen to live there.

There are new calls by some to not rebuild in flood ravaged areas. I've read reports of some homes that have been rebuilt numerous times over the past 10 years or so. Rebuilt by federal flood insurance programs. It would not require much convincing if I were in that situation. Who would want to live in a place the flooded every time there were heavy rains?

The run on gas in my neighborhood seems to be settling down. Stations that have gas no longer have lines, but there are still many stations that have run out of fuel. We are told it could be a couple of weeks yet before the supply gets back to normal. Prices have jumped more than 50 cents a gallon, across most stations. Price gouging has disappeared.
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