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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby John Q. Public » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:56 pm

I can't help but wonder what the end zone dancing is going to turn to when the Trump fans find out that Mueller is a Special Counsel and not a Special Prosecutor and the various other jurisdictions take up their parts of the investigation.


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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

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Liberalism is like an out-of-control 5 year old at McDonalds. All the talking to and admonishment won't make a difference. They have no concept of right or wrong, they are nothing more than narcissists.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

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Liberalism is like an out-of-control 5 year old at McDonalds. All the talking to and admonishment won't make a difference. They have no concept of right or wrong, they are nothing more than narcissists.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby Red » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:47 am

BTW, end zone dance? On a victory that should have never taken place? And, the end zone victory dance will begin when the real criminals gets charged.
Liberalism is like an out-of-control 5 year old at McDonalds. All the talking to and admonishment won't make a difference. They have no concept of right or wrong, they are nothing more than narcissists.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby broman » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:33 am

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries
The American people deserve to know whether Donald Trump is either A) a legitimate president, B) a Russian asset, C) the functional equivalent of an organized crime boss or D) just a useful idiot who happens to have been victimized by the greatest collection of coincidences in the history of the republic,”
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/ ... mp-1233740

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby Red » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:23 am

Another swing and miss! Sealed indictments have been written. Keep digging yourself deeper John. Here is the truth, you know the democrats are so dirty and criminal with the help of the criminal media, you are investing any principles you think you have that the truth wont come out. Guess what, it already has.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby Red » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:25 am

Hakeem Jeffries, another trash democrat from New York? Really? Pathetic.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby broman » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:15 pm

Mueller Findings

"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities," Mueller wrote in the findings released Sunday by the Justice Department.
For each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leave unresolved what the special counsel views as ‘difficult issues’ of law and fact concerning whether the President’s actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction,
However, in an apparent departure from the four corners of Mueller’s report, Barr says he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein “have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. :eh?:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/ ... rt-1233771

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby crayegg » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:22 pm

So Mueller splits the baby and punts. Then Trump's justice department decides not enough to prosecute. I still don't think this thing is over.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby broman » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:31 pm

Democrats need to let these other investigation breath. Pelosi is right, impeachment battles help Trump.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby John Q. Public » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:58 pm

Hillary isn't the topic.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby broman » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:55 pm

Reading more into Barr's memo
https://qz.com/1579451/this-is-barrs-en ... er-report/

Conspiracy was based on two things. Social media disinformation and the hacking. There was no coordination between the Trump campaign between and the Russians although it was offered. If Mueller's focus was that narrow, did he farm out the rest or consider the other events not criminal?

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby Wabash » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:40 am

Heck, I'm just surprised Barr's letter didn't blame it all on Clinton or Obama.

Keep in mind, Barr's summary is exactly that. It's not the Mueller report.

The people who are buying Barr's summary are the same ones who don't care if he committed crimes in the first place.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby John Q. Public » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:17 am

So while everybody with an "R" after his name very aggressively shouts "total exoneration" despite the letter specifically saying "no exoneration," Part Two of the letter actually says that while Donald very publicly tried to obstruct justice, he couldn't be charged with that only because that law requires him to be charged with something else. He couldn't be charged with obstruction, despite all of his very obvious efforts, only because he couldn't be charged with collusion or conspiracy. And that was from the summary by his "friendly" AG. It's even further from being an exoneration than it looks on the surface and I imagine it doesn't rule out obstruction if charges are filed in any of the many other investigations.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby broman » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:36 am

Mueller clears Trump of conspiracy and reaffirms Russia attacked our election and it doesn't change a dam thing for the Trump cult. Same words, same theories, same complaints and grievances.

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Postby John Q. Public » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:11 am

I gotta say I'm very impressed by the Republicans' offense on this. They put the entire team on the field to hammer on the "total exoneration" point to try and de-legitimize any other investigations, at least in the eyes of the believers. And I think the only effective check on it would have to come from the DOJ, so I think the GOP is in total control of the messaging at least for the time being.
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