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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

Postby Wabash » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:41 am

JQP, those are good points. Citizens in other countries watch our movies and play our video games. They have the mentally ill. They practice Christianity. Yet they don't seem to massacre each other at the same frequency as us.

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Most of those countries also don't have a death penalty. That doesn't mean that either method is any more or less effective. It only shows the differences in our cultures.
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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

Postby ShiftyMutt » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:42 am

The GOP boasts their support for law enforcement at every turn, many times insinuating that democrats don’t - but they don’t seem interested in a policeman’s point of view. How can they support the police while supporting a civilians right to own war weapons?

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Postby Wabash » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:49 am

They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

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That needs to be repealed but it doesn't change the fact that we're a country of Rednecks. We need to tweak the details but, beyond that, we need to look at the bigger problem.
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1) Just 3-4% of Americans own over half the guns in this country

2) A vast majority Americans favor enhanced background checks and a ban on assault-style weapons, including NRA rank-and-file members.

3) The NRA leadership, gun & ammo manufacturers and their spineless lackeys in congress and the right-wing media are holding the rest of us hostage

4) The result is the Stockholm syndrome on a massive scale

5) rat-a-tat-tat....whoops, there goes another group of hostages
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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

Postby John Q. Public » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:19 pm

I don't know about the assault weapons ban but I know a large majority favors stronger stronger regulations.

But the NRA practically finances Congress. I saw some numbers the other day and they were all $3-5 million for some of them. I think McCain got $10 million from them.
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Here's the top 20 lobbyists for 2017:

Lobbying Client Total

US Chamber of Commerce $82,190,000
National Assn of Realtors $54,530,861
Business Roundtable $27,380,000
Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America $25,847,500
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $24,330,306
American Hospital Assn $22,064,214
American Medical Assn $21,535,000
Alphabet Inc $18,140,000
AT&T Inc $16,780,000
Boeing Co $16,740,000
Open Society Policy Center $16,110,000
DowDuPont $15,877,520
National Assn of Broadcasters $15,460,000
Comcast Corp $15,310,000
Lockheed Martin $14,464,290
Amazon.com $13,000,000
Southern Co $12,970,000
National Retail Federation $12,890,000
NCTA The Internet & Television Assn $12,790,000
Oracle Corp $12,385,000

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.p ... ndexType=s

By contrast, the NRA spent $5,122,000 on lobbying in 2017.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clien ... &year=2017
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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

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But the Chamber of Commerce doesn't advocate for anything that's especially lethal.
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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

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Some good points there Joe. Another problem is that neither the Sutherland Springs shooter, nor this Florida shooter, should have been able to buy those guns, if the Air Force, and the FBI respectively, had done their jobs.
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Re: Why the gun industry doesn't like Republicans

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Of course they could have just ordered one off the internet in California.

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