What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 am

Donray wrote: Does this refer to the woman that Clinton raped that said no?
The rape narrative is false. More rightwing propaganda.

Nor does it change the double standard of morality of Trump supporters.
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Post by Professor Fate » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:59 am

John Q. Public wrote:
What is important is to understand that that giant block of voters feel so strongly about what Trump told them and so strongly against what Hillary told them that they ignored that part of their beliefs and voted for Trump, anyway. Democrats, and especially the more liberal and progressive ones, need to learn from that and they don't appear to be. They seem to think that pointing fingers is more important than understanding the electorate. They're w
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by MDDad » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:27 am

JQP is correct. The Democrats/liberals/progressives on this forum exemplify the national approach. For the past 16 months, it's been nothing but a constant barrage of anti-Trump vitriol, with absolutely no concrete policy ideas that could possibly awaken and excite those not already in their camp. 2,900 hundred posts on why Trump will be "an inevitable disaster" is not what I'd call an uplifting message.

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:08 am

Nothing wrong with being anti-Trump. I'm just saying that being anti-Trump supporter is stupid. You don't sway people's thinking by telling them how dumb they are. It's on the pre-test for Salesmanship 101.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Donray » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:09 am

The problem for Mr. Cohen is that his claim that the money was not a campaign contribution may not be correct. That's not his decision to make and if it's dtermined to be a campaign contribution the issue is that it wasn't reported as such.
Tell me why you don't believe Cohen? Tell me what proof you have that he is lying? I hope you have taken your proof to the proper people? Cohen worth 10 million and you don't think he would pay? Why? And, it was not Trump that made the payment or knew of the payment.

Also you appear not to be able to spell.

I asked what your definition of a whore is and you failed to reply since you don't think money for sex makes one a whore,

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by broman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:13 am

If it takes another 2900 post for Trump supporters to recognize their moral, political and historical contradictions so be it.

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by broman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:25 am

Maybe I should ask how somebody can have such passion for the sexual improprieties of Clinton and ignore or excuse Trumps.

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Post by MDDad » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:16 pm

I suppose it's the same way somebody can have such passion for the sexual improprieties of Trump and ignore or excuse Clinton's and Kennedy's. Situational morals are alive and well on both sides.

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Vilepagan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:37 pm

Donray wrote: Tell me why you don't believe Cohen?
Because his claim is implausible to my mind and his client is a known serial liar.
Tell me what proof you have that he is lying?
None. Tell me what proof you have that he's telling the truth.
Cohen worth 10 million and you don't think he would pay?
Not without some sort of reimbursement, no. Why do you think he would?
Why?
Well, let's just say that someone just "giving" someone else 130K isn't something you hear about every day.
And, it was not Trump that made the payment or knew of the payment.
So the story goes...I see no reason to believe that.
Also you appear not to be able to spell.
I don't think you really want to compare our posts for spelling errors do you?
I asked what your definition of a whore is and you failed to reply since you don't think money for sex makes one a whore,
No, as I said money for sex is exactly what makes someone a prostitute (whore). Stormy Daniels is a porn star, not a prostitute. I know it's hard for you to understand but paying someone to have sex with you is illegal. Paying two people to have sex so you can take pictures is not. The first act makes you a john, the second makes you a pornographer.

Please stop calling that slut a whore.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Vilepagan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:41 pm

John Q. Public wrote: I'm just saying that being anti-Trump supporter is stupid. You don't sway people's thinking by telling them how dumb they are. It's on the pre-test for Salesmanship 101.
I can see your point. On the other hand, what if you're not selling anything?
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Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:03 pm

broman wrote:Maybe I should ask how somebody can have such passion for the sexual improprieties of Clinton and ignore or excuse Trumps.
I don't care about either one. My point has always been how those who were critical of Clinton now excuse Trump.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:05 pm

John Q. Public wrote:Nothing wrong with being anti-Trump. I'm just saying that being anti-Trump supporter is stupid. You don't sway people's thinking by telling them how dumb they are. It's on the pre-test for Salesmanship 101.
The other rule of Salemanship 101 is that one has to have a receptive customer.

That is not the case here.

It's why I believe the effort is better spent cultivating emerging market share for the future.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:21 pm

"The other rule of Salemanship 101 is that one has to have a receptive customer."

Nope. Not a requirement at all. It's why I have a job.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Fordama » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:27 pm

Donray wrote:Fordama,

What does your post mean?????

Does this refer to the woman that Clinton raped that said no?
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by MDDad » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:45 pm

Wabash wrote:My point has always been how those who were critical of Clinton now excuse Trump.
And those who are critical of Trump used to excuse Clinton and Kennedy. Everyone knows what your point has always been. However, I don't think I've ever met anyone else who has made an entire forum career out of criticizing one side for something he knows both sides are guilty of.

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:40 pm

Not the same. Evangelicals made morality a litmus test. Much more so than liberals.
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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by broman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:13 pm

For many of my Evangelical friends, Trump's past sinful behavior and maybe current and future sins are signs of his mandate from God. Folks are so convinced that Trump is anointed, he can not fail. How and why they developed this system is a whole other story. --:--

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:14 pm

I know logic is not an issue with many religious folks. But that line of reasoning makes no sense.
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Post by MDDad » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:43 pm

Wabash wrote:Not the same. Evangelicals made morality a litmus test. Much more so than liberals.
Sorry, but it's exactly the same. Both sides are hypocrites when they condemn the other side and remain silent or supportive of their own for the same behaviors.

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Re: What's with all the stuff about Stormy?

Post by Wabash » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:05 pm

Actually it isn't. One side even coined the term Moral Majority.

It wasn't the liberals.
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