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How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:32 pm
by cruiser
Rasmussen reports,the only national recognized public opinion poll since
Gallup has quit polling, has Trump at 47% favorable and 52% disfavorable
in their current poll, is this a mistake?

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:25 pm
by Fordama
Who tole you that there was only one nationally recognized poll?
Here's another:

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:51 pm
by Professor Fate
cruiser wrote: Trump at 47% favorable
47%...And he won the 2016 election with 46% of the votes.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:15 pm
by Fordama
Trump's "strongly approve" number is at 29%, but his "strongly disapprove number is at 41%.

Not exactly glowing numbers from Rasmussen.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:30 pm
by broman
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ex_history

Look at the history in the daily poll numbers. Trump has been as high as 50% and as low as 39% approval. The next batch of polls should provide a better measure of his approval rating.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:32 pm
by John Q. Public
Rasmussen is NOT the "only nationally recognized poll". Maybe the only one recognized by Trump or his PR channel, but far from "the only one".

FiveThirtyEight is one of the best data analysis sites on the internet and their rolling average of ALL national polls has him at 40.5% approve, 53.4% disapprove. Still surprising but much more accurate than only looking at one poll - which 538 incidentally rates at only C+ in it's methods.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... id=rrpromo
Link provided to verify the content of my post, not as a substitute for it.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:17 pm
by Red
Polls Schmolls! No Democrat will beat Trump in 2020! They have nothing to run on.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:00 pm
by Fordama
As long as Hillary isn't running, Trump isn't winning.

The far more interesting possibility is that Trump's inability to organize and lead could lead to a Republican challenger in 2019-20. The truth is that Trump didn't even get 50% of the Republican primary vote--he prospered from the divisive early primaries.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:09 am
by Vilepagan
Red wrote: No Democrat will beat Trump in 2020!
I agree, but that's because trump won't be running.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:01 am
by MDDad
Fordama wrote:As long as Hillary isn't running, Trump isn't winning.
Wow, how times have changed. I remember not too long ago it was: As long as Hillary is running, no Republican is winning.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:30 am
by John Q. Public
Some said as long as a warm body was running, Trump wasn't winning. Hillary proved them wrong.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:36 am
by Professor Fate
You think she has a warm body?

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:01 pm
by Wabash
Put in perspective.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:23 pm
by cruiser
This is interesting, no?

Monday, April 02, 2018

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove.

The latest figures include 33% who Strongly Approve of the way the president is performing and 39% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -6. (see trend

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:46 pm
by John Q. Public
Again, that's only one survey. Gallup has him down by 13%. IBD/TIPP, down by 14%.

Gallup dropped their daily tracking but not the monthly one or whatever it is.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:31 pm
by John Q. Public
LOL. I had to look at Rasmussen's survey to check this tweet.


Yes. On this exact day he is ahead of Obama. Five days earlier, Obama was ahead by 3%. But, as I recall, this point in Obama's term was about when Republicans really stepped up their PR campaign against Obamacare and there was that little issue about his birth certificate.

And Rasmussen runs a popup window with Faux "News" running in it. Yeah. I should trust their results. :roll:

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:45 pm
by Wabash
Since polls are being posted showing Trump's favorable rising it should also be known there are other factors.

A recent Public Policy Polling found that not only was there support for impeachment at record levels. That more Americans trust the news media more than Trump. His claims of "fake news" are not having the effect he wants outside his core base.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:18 pm
by cruiser
Isn't this poll like six! months old?

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:21 pm
by MDDad
Cruiser, you weren't supposed to notice that. When you google as fast as Wabash does, sometimes things like accuracy and relevance fall through the cracks.

Re: How can this be?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm
by Wabash
cruiser wrote:Isn't this poll like six! months old?
Nothing has changed much.

Recent polling from Monmouth reinforces that position from six months ago.

Trump less trusted than CNN, MSNBC, and Fox as info source
The Monmouth University Poll also finds that Pres. Trump is trusted less as source of information than three cable news outlets – except if you ask Republicans. Nearly half the American public (48%) trusts CNN more than Trump, compared with one-third (35%) who trust Trump more than CNN and another 13% who trust both equally as a source of information. The results are similar when Trump is pitted against the left-leaning MSNBC – 45% trust MSNBC more, 32% trust Trump more, and 16% trust both equally. The right-leaning Fox News also bests the president as a trusted information source – 30% trust Fox more and 20% trust Trump more, although a plurality of 37% trust both equally.

The results for the president versus MSNBC have not changed much in the past year (47% trusted MSNBC more, 33% trusted Trump more, 15% trusted both equally in March 2017). The pendulum has swung slightly but not substantially away from Fox News and toward Trump in that matchup (37% trusted Fox News more, 17% trusted Trump more, 36% trusted both equally in March 2017). CNN was not included in the 2017 poll.

It should come as no surprise that many more Republicans trust the president as an information source than either CNN (12% versus 75% for Trump) or MSNBC (11% versus 72% for Trump). But Republicans are also somewhat more likely to trust Trump (35%) over Fox News (21%), with 40% trusting both GOP-aligned sources equally. In 2017, 29% of Republicans trusted Trump more, 26% trusted Fox more, and 44% trusted both equally, marking a slight gain for the president in the current poll.