Whistle blower vs Privilege
- ShiftyMutt
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.....but you released the transcripts that confirmed what the whistle-blower said about your conversation.
...... that means somebody else in your inner circle told the whistle- blower..
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Another day, another easily refuted inane lie that his sycophants will eagerly lap up...
There's nothing at all in U.S. law about people accused of wrongdoing getting to "meet" their accusers, let alone publicly defame them or threaten to have them executed. Imagine a mob boss having the right to "meet" a police informant, or an accused child molester his victim...
In other news, it was yet another sad day for our country. On all the talk shows Trump surrogates (Guiliani, Lindsay Graham, Stephan Miller, Jim Jordan, et al.) ignored questions about the president's behavior and simply spewed rapid-fire lies and deflections about Biden, his son, the Whistleblower, Crowdstrike, Viktor Shokin, Area 51 (okay, I made that last one up)
Round-the-Bend Rudy flailed about in his usual manically demented way and Jordan had his numerous lies deftly called out in real time by Jake Tapper, but Miller looked particularly pathetic when Fox's Chris Wallace took him apart piece by piece as he railed about the whistleblower's "condescension, righteous indignation and contempt" with condescending, righteously indignant contempt. In the end, the only thing we really learned from his "performance" is that he's apparently a big Nancy Drew fan...who knew?
There's nothing at all in U.S. law about people accused of wrongdoing getting to "meet" their accusers, let alone publicly defame them or threaten to have them executed. Imagine a mob boss having the right to "meet" a police informant, or an accused child molester his victim...
In other news, it was yet another sad day for our country. On all the talk shows Trump surrogates (Guiliani, Lindsay Graham, Stephan Miller, Jim Jordan, et al.) ignored questions about the president's behavior and simply spewed rapid-fire lies and deflections about Biden, his son, the Whistleblower, Crowdstrike, Viktor Shokin, Area 51 (okay, I made that last one up)
Round-the-Bend Rudy flailed about in his usual manically demented way and Jordan had his numerous lies deftly called out in real time by Jake Tapper, but Miller looked particularly pathetic when Fox's Chris Wallace took him apart piece by piece as he railed about the whistleblower's "condescension, righteous indignation and contempt" with condescending, righteously indignant contempt. In the end, the only thing we really learned from his "performance" is that he's apparently a big Nancy Drew fan...who knew?
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And it's only going to get crazier.
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but you released the transcripts that confirmed what the whistle-blower said about your conversation...that means somebody else in your inner circle told the whistle- blower..
Never fear, The Imperial Orangutan has that one covered too:
"In addition," he added, "I want to meet not only my accuser, who presented SECOND & THIRD HAND INFORMATION, but also the person who illegally gave this information, which was largely incorrect, to the 'Whistleblower.' Was this person SPYING on the U.S. President? Big Consequences!"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI1Qgy
"SPYING" (in all caps in case anyone might miss it) and "Big Consequences!"?? I can picture the single wheel in his mind wobbling as he imagines presiding over a double hanging during the Super Bowl halftime show...
Never fear, The Imperial Orangutan has that one covered too:
"In addition," he added, "I want to meet not only my accuser, who presented SECOND & THIRD HAND INFORMATION, but also the person who illegally gave this information, which was largely incorrect, to the 'Whistleblower.' Was this person SPYING on the U.S. President? Big Consequences!"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI1Qgy
"SPYING" (in all caps in case anyone might miss it) and "Big Consequences!"?? I can picture the single wheel in his mind wobbling as he imagines presiding over a double hanging during the Super Bowl halftime show...
Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege
Now the question is who is the next person to get the ax. We know Trump will blame someone. We know Trump never blames Trump. My money is on Mick Mulvaney. Mulvaney's still technically "acting," and a potential replacement would not require Senate approval, axing him is a simple matter. So, don't be too surprised if "Mick the Knife" decides he wants to spend more time with his family in the near future.
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More bad news for the country. It's only Monday and now along with the President's personal lawyer, the Secretary of State has been implicated in the secret Ukraine extortion scheme: From that liberal fake-news rag The Wall Street Journal:
"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was among administration officials who listened in on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a senior State Department official said Monday, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to the House impeachment inquiry."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI4zVT
Also, it was revealed that the Secretary of State has been feverishly pumping world leaders (pardon the visual) for dirt on the US intelligence community:
"The Justice Department confirmed on Monday that Attorney General William Barr had asked President Donald Trump for introductions to foreign officials as part of a probe into intelligence gathering surrounding the 2016 presidential election that eventually led to the Russia investigation. The department statement followed a report from The Washington Post hours earlier that Barr had contacted British and Italian officials and that the Trump administration reached out to their Australian counterparts as part of an investigation into U.S. intelligence activities around Trump’s election. The New York Times also reported Monday that Trump called Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia to urge him to help Barr in the Justice Department investigation. Both publications cited unidentified U.S. officials and people familiar with the matter for their reports."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI4QWX
The good news is that Woodward and Bernstein are still around to co-author All the President's Men II
"Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was among administration officials who listened in on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a senior State Department official said Monday, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to the House impeachment inquiry."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI4zVT
Also, it was revealed that the Secretary of State has been feverishly pumping world leaders (pardon the visual) for dirt on the US intelligence community:
"The Justice Department confirmed on Monday that Attorney General William Barr had asked President Donald Trump for introductions to foreign officials as part of a probe into intelligence gathering surrounding the 2016 presidential election that eventually led to the Russia investigation. The department statement followed a report from The Washington Post hours earlier that Barr had contacted British and Italian officials and that the Trump administration reached out to their Australian counterparts as part of an investigation into U.S. intelligence activities around Trump’s election. The New York Times also reported Monday that Trump called Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia to urge him to help Barr in the Justice Department investigation. Both publications cited unidentified U.S. officials and people familiar with the matter for their reports."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AAI4QWX
The good news is that Woodward and Bernstein are still around to co-author All the President's Men II

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Does the impeachment form have an "All of the above" box?
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Back to million dollar question. Why is Trump and his team trying to prove the innocence of Russia? I'm going with my same answers, Trump owes Russia something or he wants something from Russia and the Magnitsky Sanctions are in the way.
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There's another possibility/probability: Russia has something on Trump, either d**kpics, or proof of massive loans/grants which may or may not be declared on his perpetually "under-audit" tax returns...or both 

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For a person who claims innocence, he sure does act worried.
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So, Pompeo says it "isn't feasible" for the State Dept. to respond to the congressional subpoena, Barr is off God knows where looking for evidence against our intelligence agencies in their handling of Russian interference and a federal judge has told the Justice Dept. to either charge McCabe or drop their case*.
I'm curious if any of our Conservative readers think this is what the writers of the Constitution had in mind when they wrote all that "Checks and Balances" stuff.
* The Grand Jury on the case appears to have failed to bring charges but no one has confirmed it.
I'm curious if any of our Conservative readers think this is what the writers of the Constitution had in mind when they wrote all that "Checks and Balances" stuff.
* The Grand Jury on the case appears to have failed to bring charges but no one has confirmed it.
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Hillary - "Congress' subpoena 'can be understood only as an attempt to intimidate, bully, and treat improperly.'"
Ha! Just kidding! Pompeo said that. Hillary complied and testified for 11 hours.
Ha! Just kidding! Pompeo said that. Hillary complied and testified for 11 hours.
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- Omar Bongo
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"intimidate, bully, and treat improperly"


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He doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in his Vice President.
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- Omar Bongo
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...their VOTE, their Freedoms, their Second Amendment, Religion, Military, Border Wall, and their God-given rights...
He left out Cable TV and Double Stuf Oreos...
What an insufferable crybaby. I'd tell him to man up but he's obviously emotionally incapable. This is a perfect example of why Bill Maher calls him a whiny little b***h.
He left out Cable TV and Double Stuf Oreos...
What an insufferable crybaby. I'd tell him to man up but he's obviously emotionally incapable. This is a perfect example of why Bill Maher calls him a whiny little b***h.
"Trump is what he is, a floundering, inarticulate jumble of gnawing insecurities and not-at-all compensating vanities, which is pathetic."
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With Trump eager to discover the identity
of the whistleblower so he can silence
hlm/her/them, I feel this is an 'l am Spartacus!' moment...so I'm proud to start the ball rolling...
'l am the whistleblower!"
of the whistleblower so he can silence
hlm/her/them, I feel this is an 'l am Spartacus!' moment...so I'm proud to start the ball rolling...
'l am the whistleblower!"
- Omar Bongo
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Too late. Igor already outed the boss:
‘The president of the United States is the whistleblower,’ Stephen Miller says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
‘The president of the United States is the whistleblower,’ Stephen Miller says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
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Another question for the readers: Ordinarily, corruption involving Americans in other countries is investigated by the countries they're in, maybe the FBI, and maybe some combination of the State Dept. and maybe the SEC or whatever agencies might be relevant. Do any of you think it's unusual that they aren't with your Biden "scandal" and instead, it's the president and his personal "lawyer" doing the investigating?
Or is it because all those agencies and their Trump-appointed leaders are corrupt and part of the Deep State or something? It just seems odd to me.
Or is it because all those agencies and their Trump-appointed leaders are corrupt and part of the Deep State or something? It just seems odd to me.
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"Investigating" should be in quotes as well
With these guys it all comes down to politics. If you're not "with Trump" it's simply because you're a partisan liberal hater. Keeps one from having to ponder difficult questions such as the one you asked.
Stereotype, smear. Blather, rinse and repeat.

With these guys it all comes down to politics. If you're not "with Trump" it's simply because you're a partisan liberal hater. Keeps one from having to ponder difficult questions such as the one you asked.
Stereotype, smear. Blather, rinse and repeat.