Whistle blower vs Privilege

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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:19 pm

Could be worse, Tommy. We could have sacrificed all of our supposedly sacrosanct principles by defending an embarrassing immoral lying scumbag for purely political reasons...how do you guys sleep :eh?:
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:37 pm

You know your case isn't going well when...

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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Vilepagan » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 am

Looks like we'll be treated to some more "alternative facts"...

Trump wants Republicans to release their own accounts from impeachment probe

President Trump on Sunday urged Republicans privy to last week's House Intelligence Committee hearings to come forward with their own transcripts from the closed-door meetings that Democrats claim bolstered their claim for impeachment.

Trump also appeared to suggest that he has information that a recent witness, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, is a “Never-Trumper.” He was asked about any evidence he may have about Vindman and he responded, “We’ll be showing that to you real soon.”


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... ment-probe

Yeah...real soon...right after the indictments from the Benghazi investigation are handed down no doubt.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Omar Bongo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:01 am

Or his plan to balance the budget in 8 years...or Obama's Kenyan birth certificate...or his tax returns...or...
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Post by Wabash » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:25 am

The issue that Trump supporters will never address.

When did personal political beliefs become illegal? When did it become illegal for an American citizen to hold beliefs in opposition to the president?
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Post by John Q. Public » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:42 am

Vilepagan wrote:QR_BBPOST Looks like we'll be treated to some more "alternative facts"...
Pretty clear that's what he's asking for but there could be repercussions if they produce them. Hearing transcripts are recorded by official congressional stenographers and are signed by the witnesses to verify their accuracy. There are no Republican or Democrat versions of the Congressional Record.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Wabash » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:32 pm

The guy Trump cited as proof there wasn’t a Quid Pro Quo just said there was a Quid Pro Quo.

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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Omar Bongo » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:41 pm

Spin the wheel:

a) it didn't happen
b) get over it
c) yeah, but Bill and Hillary...
d) never Trumpers!
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Post by John Q. Public » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:51 pm

e) I'm not gonna read it - Lindsey Graham
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:10 am

Alright, we're down to "being a moron isn't a high crime or misdemeanor."

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Post by crayegg » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:38 pm

But I'm afraid extorting a foreign power for political gain, IS A CRIME.

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Post by broman » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:50 pm

I think abuse of power is the stronger case. Trump tells the President of Ukraine to connect with Rudy G.... who by the way is still claiming he is working for Trump the individual.

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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:58 pm

I'd think that abuse of power and self-dealing would be exactly what most of the Founding Fathers meant by "high crimes." But it's still a little vague because there were some royalists in the bunch. And none of them could have foreseen a Republican Party that would be niggling over abuse of power and self-dealing not being statutory crimes. But ya gotta know that Jefferson and Madison would be screaming "WTF is wrong with you people?" if they were alive today.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:05 pm

Ya know, it just occurred to me.... As far as offenses presidents have been impeached over, Jefferson might have sided with Clinton.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:37 am

So Rudy's all lawyered up now and his strategy will be........ "whatever I did, I did at the behest of my 'client' (i.e. I just work here/Yer on yer own, Don)." Donald's strategy is that he didn't do anything wrong and/or he's bigger than the bus Rudy's throwing him under. And that kind of forces him not to fire him, at least for now. The Cohen situation all over again except this time it isn't just a porn star.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Tommy Tar » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:57 pm

Rudy and porn stars?

We give up on the blower?

Look out Charlie Brown. :lol:
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:23 pm

We give up on the blower?

Give it a rest wouldja, that was 20 years and 3 presidents ago
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Wabash » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:47 pm

The current tactic being is known as the "moron defense," which holds that the president is too dumb to commit all the crimes it appears he has committed. So far, Graham's the only one I've heard articulate that defense in this case and I would guess that's because it's bound to make Trump livid. You may have noticed that he sees himself as a "very stable genius" and he'd probably rather be impeached than hear Republicans say that he was too stupid to have committed a crime.

In other words: This might be a crime in the hands of some other administration, but not in the hands of the Trump administration, because they are so incompetent they are incapable of pulling it off. Needless to say, that doesn't quite square with reality—plenty of folks involved were 100% convinced that an act of extortion was underway. Schiff might also get a lawyer or two to take the stand and point out that incompetence is not actually a valid defense. It's still attempted murder, even if the perpetrator forgets to load the gun.
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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by John Q. Public » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:48 am

Mobster calling on more witnesses to testify. #TooDumbToCrime

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Re: Whistle blower vs Privilege

Post by Wabash » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:50 pm

He sounds scared.
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