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Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:05 am
by joefutbol
To believe Sondland you must believe Trump lied. This is just a fake hoax nothing burger.

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:19 am
by John Q. Public

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:04 am
by John Q. Public
Lol. Here it is. He went to Europe for coffee.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/11971 ... 98598?s=20

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:13 am
by John Q. Public
And now comes the "It's but a flesh wound" defense.

https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/11 ... 69729?s=20

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:58 am
by Wabash

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:51 pm
by John Q. Public
I'm kind of wondering if it might be wise for Republicans to abandon ship before Pence gets pulled in any further.

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:55 pm
by John Q. Public
Buuuutttt, Republicans do still have the defense that this was Sondland's third re-write.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:34 pm
by Omar Bongo
“Everyone was in the loop.”

“We followed the president’s orders.”

“Was there a quid pro quo? The answer is yes.”

Even the Maytag repairman can't spin that

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:30 pm
by Wabash
joefutbol wrote:
> nothing burger.

More like a whooper.

See what I did there?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:08 am
by Omar Bongo
I think Chairman Schiff has been doing a great job so far, his questions and his closing comments are really right on point. If you didn't have time to watch today, this 13 minute summation says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds-BQlizdSQ&t=646s

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 am
by Wabash
For those not watching. David Holmes is driving another bus over Trump et al.

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:16 am
by John Q. Public
LOL. Anyone want to tell the House Republicans that that sign doesn't say what they think it says?

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/11975 ... 64672?s=20

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:42 am
by John Q. Public
From the "Chief White House Correspondent" from OANN, Donald's new favorite network. Ignorant on more than a few levels.

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/sta ... 89152?s=20

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:46 pm
by Omar Bongo
“ … some of you appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.” - Dr. Fiona Hill

Still not sure if they realize this in their partisan heart of heats or if they're really as dumb as the Russians thought they were...Trump I know is that dumb.

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:15 pm
by Wabash
John Q. Public wrote:
> LOL. Anyone want to tell the House Republicans that that sign doesn't say
> what they think it says?
>
> https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/11975 ... 64672?s=20

No one is ever going to accuse them of being the smartest folks in the room.

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:26 pm
by Omar Bongo
LOL

That pretty much sums up the amount of brainpower among the GOP in the room

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:31 pm
by Omar Bongo
Schiff right on target again with his closing remarks:

“Where is Howard Baker?” (GOP Senator famous for asking “What did the president know, and when did he know it?”) Only three Republicans were still present when Schiff asked that question...smh

“What we’ve seen here is far more serious than a third-rate burglary of the Democratic headquarters,” Schiff said. “The difference between then and now is not the difference between Nixon and Trump. It’s the difference between that Congress and this one.”

Exactamundo

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:43 pm
by broman
Two different world views on display. One group looking and searching for fact, another demanding loyalty. Fact based arguments are not going to move the GOP towards impeachment or off the Trump train in 2020..

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:35 pm
by Omar Bongo
It's exactly like the man said, he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and he wouldn’t lose any voters.

It's a cult of personality. No matter what he did or does it won't change a thing with his 35% base.

The rest of his republican support isn't mindless, just opportunist.

Re: The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:25 pm
by John Q. Public
Reality check:

No, the true believers might not be convinced. But this was only an open grand jury hearing, as it were. They don't have to be convinced at this point.

Congress might or might not have concluded their testimonies. The next step would be bringing or not bringing Articles of Impeachment and the full House voting on them. On a party-line vote.

Then it will go to the "trial" that Republicans have been pretending just took place. I assume they will be able to call whatever witnesses they want, no? What role will Chief Justice Roberts play in that and will he allow them to call the whistle blower? I have a feeling this might get even more interesting.