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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Red » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:09 pm

The fat lady, hilary will start singing when the sealed indictments are open. Your party is filth. Be proud vile.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Red » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:11 pm

RPW wrote:After all of this, nothing will happen to this guy.

He most likely will be re-elected and run the largest Ponzi scheme funded by the dumbass people that vote for him.
NO RPW, the dumbasses that voted for Hillary are the losers.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Red » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:15 pm

John Q. Public wrote:Now he wants to discredit the report that fully exonerates him. I'm so confused.

Because you are not as bright as you think. He is pissed because of the FRAUD that was perpetrated on him for that last 2 years prevented him from doing a lot more good for this country that the weasels in the democratic and Obama could ever done.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Vilepagan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:21 pm

Luca wrote:QR_BBPOST I think I see the beginnings of insight here.
No doubt you're referring to some insight you had personally.
Unless I’m wrong I sense that there is a sullen admission that the "collusion" issue is dead....blah. blah, blah,... you have kindred brethren in the Flat Earth Society.
You're just wrong. Again. And like trump.
But now, as predicted by many, the issue has morphed into "obstruction of justice" of the nonexistent conspiracy, to wit:
These people you refer to as 'many" might have gotten that idea from Mueller's mandate from the DoJ...rather than it "morphing" as you state.
Of course he lies. He is uncouth, unnecessarily abrasive and frequently adolescent. We knew that when we elected him and did n'tt need this two year long kabuki theater to remind us.... As a result of all the animosity and leftward drift the Democrats will once again nominate some intuitively unelectable and obstinately leftist candidate and we will be forced to choose between two crappy presidential possibilities once again. And the way things are headed right now it’s probably going to be Donald Trump. And you will have no one to blame but yourselves.
I don't accept responsibility. If you went into the voting booth and pulled the lever next to trump's name, it's all on you.

BTW, it's rather odd you'd describe anyone as 'unelectable"...we all thought the Republicans would decide trump was unelectable...but I guess that concept doesn't apply to someone with an (R) next to their name. If you think it does I'm curious to hear what you think would make trump unelectable...what would he have to do to make you denounce him?
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Vilepagan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:25 pm

Red wrote:QR_BBPOST The fat lady, hilary will start singing when the sealed indictments are open.
What indictments? Details, Red, details.
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Red, your morals are just warped. I am proud I didn't vote for a man who paid off a porn star after having an extramarital affair...you're the one who should be proud Red, you and all your "normal, decent American" friends...what a raging hypocrite you are.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Vilepagan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:27 pm

Red wrote:QR_BBPOST He is pissed because of the FRAUD that was perpetrated on him for that last 2 years prevented him from doing a lot more good for this country that the weasels in the democratic and Obama could ever done.
Yes...St. Donald is upset because he couldn't help us all more... :lol:

The comedy just writes itself. Badly.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Luca » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:42 pm

So you still believe in the super secret commie conspiracy with Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale in the Trump Tower? Or was it Professor Plum with the wrench in the Billiard Room? Great Scott, Holmes, that must mean that Mueller is part of the coverup. It goes deeper than anyone knew. They're trying to poison our precious bodily fluids, Colonel.........................

Okay, so I overestimated. Get back to me when you get to the bottom of that commie plot. Then may be you can tackle the Rosenberg's, Sacco and Vanzetti, Attica, etc. Probably won't be hearing from you for a long time

I can't take you seriously. You're just acting out all your pent-up frustrations and anger, pagan. We all know what they are. You've repeated them in every possible permutation for the last 2 years. As I said, it's over and I don't have anything new to add unless you do......................Luca

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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Fordama » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:48 pm

So I;m taking that Luca has pretty much not followed any thread on the issue here.

Yet he continues to comment wildly on things. '

Interesting.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by RPW » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:51 pm

Red wrote:QR_BBPOST NO RPW, the dumbasses that voted for Hillary are the losers.

When you don't have the moral compass to know when a person is a **** head, Red you should stop talking.
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Post by Wabash » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:12 pm

Luca wrote:And you wonder why so many people consider this whole episode a colossal waste of energy.
Given the types of individuals and activity revealed I disagree.
Luca wrote:Most people including me don’t “like” the man, but he was fairly elected President and there was no crime. So the rational individual moves on, as they say............Luca
So what if he was legally elected? We should not examine his potentially illegal behavior? Especially that might occur AFTER he was elected? What a Stephen Millerish thing to say. That the power of the president should not be questioned has never been part of our national psyche until now........Wabash
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Post by Wabash » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:18 pm

John Q. Public wrote:QR_BBPOST N.B. Not being Wabash here. I wasn't a fan of Clinton and I was a loyal Republican at the time but I thought Barr's investigation really was a WITCH HUNT.
You beat me to it. Though I was thinking of Benghazi. How many times did investigations get launched because this was the time the GOP was certain they could find something incriminating against Clinton. At least Rep. McCarthy had the honesty to admit the hearings were all shams to damage her politically.
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Re: First Charges filed by Mueller

Post by Wabash » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:19 pm

Luca wrote:QR_BBPOST As I said, it's over and I don't have anything new to add unless you do......................Luca
You haven't said much now. So it's for the best you leave before you look foolish.......again......Wabash
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Post by Vilepagan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:26 pm

Luca wrote:QR_BBPOST I can't take you seriously.
I think you mean you won't. If you can't it's just due to willful ignorance.
You're just acting out all your pent-up frustrations and anger, pagan. We all know what they are. You've repeated them in every possible permutation for the last 2 years.
Right, and you're just having another juvenile temper tantrum...perhaps if you took a nap. Is this the kind of discussion you want?

(An aside: How was it that I was simultaneously keeping my anger and frustrations "pent-up" while "repeating them" for two years?...Just curious.)
As I said, it's over and I don't have anything new to add........
You should have led with that. But as you stated earlier, it really isn't over is it....in many ways it's just getting started. So strap in, it's going to be a bumpy ride. :wink:
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Post by John Q. Public » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:02 am

Luca wrote:QR_BBPOST I think I see the beginnings of insight here. Unless I’m wrong I sense that there is a sullen admission that the "collusion" issue is dead, the belief that the President directly or through his representatives conspired with "Russian agents" (God, this reminds me so much of the ‘50s, or a Tom Clancy novel) to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. If not, then all I can do is point out that a 2-year investigation by a special prosecutor did not find evidence of it. And if the response is that the prosecutor didn’t dig deep enough or didn’t prove that the nefarious conspiracy did not occur, well………. you have kindred brethren in the Flat Earth Society.
Quoting only this paragraph and ignoring all of the other off-topic nonsense on this page....

According to the report - or the "Mueller Dossier" as good so-called "Republicans" are apparently supposed to call it now - yes, the "collusion" part is dead as far as Trump is concerned. But it didn't say that he didn't knowingly take full advantage of Russian interference or that the campaign didn't work with people who were working with Russia (i.e. Wikileaks and Manafort's and Flynn's Ukrainian friends). And I have a feeling the Grand Jury might still be out on the Trump Tower meeting. Maybe not. But Junior's statement that "they just wanted to talk about adoptions" can't be ignored, since it obviously meant that they wanted sanctions lifted in exchange for dirt. His walking away saved him on that but it doesn't sound like he walked because he thought that such a deal would be illegal. It sounded more like he didn't understand what they were asking. And you can't be charged with conspiracy if you don't understand that that's what you're doing. But the sanctions were at least softened as part of the Republican platform, so that might not be over.

Ignorance won't help him on the obstruction part though and there's mountains of evidence that he attempted to obstruct, both in the report... er, excuse me, "the dossier" and in his Twitter feed. And there's Comey's firing, which he or McGahn admitted was for the purpose of stopping the investigation. Whether or not to prosecute is now up to Congress, as that's their jurisdiction. And it's why the so-called "Republicans" are trying so hard to discredit attempts to do that.

And somewhere out there, Nixon is fit to be tied because the Republican Party of his time wasn't as "supportive" of him as they are of Trump, even though he was a far better, and maybe even more ethical president except for that little part about cheating to get elected and the attempts to obstruct the investigation.
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Post by Wabash » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:36 am

I finished reading the report. The underlying theme (to me) is how easily the Russians manipulated the gullibility of the American public. Which was exploited to maximum effect.
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Post by John Q. Public » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:18 am

The topic is the Mueller report, Red.
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Post by Red » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:24 am

Indeed it is. Tick tock! Indictments are coming. 37 indictments and 8 convictions? Batting .210. LOL The worse was an American Hero, Michael Flynn! BE proud!
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Post by Wabash » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:29 am

Huh? :eh?:
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Post by John Q. Public » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:03 am

If anybody's interested in actually reading the damned report, you can read or download a searchable version of it here:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... Report.pdf

The part that lays out the framework for Congress to investigate or prosecute obstruction starts around page 169 of Section 2.
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Post by Vilepagan » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:21 pm

Red wrote:QR_BBPOST Indeed it is. Tick tock! Indictments are coming.
You have to have an investigation first...you're getting ahead of yourself again Red.
The worse was an American Hero, Michael Flynn! BE proud!
What do you like the most about him? The fact that trump demanded his resignation? The fact that he says he's a Democrat? Or maybe it's that he pleaded guilty to his crimes?

Actually, never mind...I'm sure you don't know the first thing about the man.
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