Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

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Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby Dave » Tue May 15, 2018 7:10 pm

Has anyone heard any feedback on the new Head Coach?



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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby hit the lights » Wed May 16, 2018 6:00 am

Yeah he pussed out and dropped out of the Edison tournament. Im guessing Poly is the new Lakewood. Everyone at Bosco or Narbonne, or Serra. Poly no more??

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby RoadRunner » Wed May 16, 2018 9:13 am

I was wondering why Norco team was in it....now I know
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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby RoadRunner » Wed May 16, 2018 9:18 am

wait...when is the last time Poly has participated in that tourney?
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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby Daforno » Wed May 16, 2018 11:56 am

Don't get on the guy, he knows what he is doing, why show your weakness?

Poly is a shadow of the old days, Bosco has taken the cream and let "GOOD" players BUT the cream is gone.

Poly goes 8-3 maybe that's it out in the first round

The glory days are over, Last season should of been the indicator what MD pounded them by 30?

The cupboard is bare and will be for a while!

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby cruiser » Wed May 16, 2018 1:21 pm

I think the LBSD used to be an open district and incoming frosh could go to any district
HS they wanted to, back then all the elite city FB, BasketB, T&F, etc.; - student athletes
obviously went to Poly for those sports, that is not the case anymore, I believe now LB incoming frosh have to attend their designated home HS, someone in the know can correct if wrong.
Poly used to always have an enrollment of near or over 5000 kids, still the case?

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby Daforno » Wed May 16, 2018 2:20 pm

Even if Poly has 5,000 kids you need great football players and those "kids" are on their way to Bosco!

Poly will be fine, but not great, upper level public school as I said 8-3, 7-4, maybe a stretch 2nd round

Think about it, once the Bosco group pays a visit to MOM and explains "tuition assistance" where do you think the young man goes?

If I were in that position, it's a no brainer straight up Bellflower Blvd!!!!

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Wed May 16, 2018 10:05 pm

Norco is in the Battle at the Beach because they have as many or more dudes at skill positions than other, more hyped teams in that passing tournament. They put up big offensive numbers in a bunch of games last season, including giving Centennial's defense their biggest regular season punsihment. And, as is custom for every school, they've added some key transfers. Them being in that tourney has nothing to do with Poly being out.

2020 QB Shane Illingworth-a-holdback is rated as one of the top QBs in his class. He's the huge 6'6" kid that split time with Piferi and looked good at Villa Park last season, after sitting out 5 games (after being involved in the Centennial to Corona High transfer dispute fiasco). Already has offers from Louisville, Arkansas, ASU, Arizona, and Colorado, among others.

2020 WR-LB Jaden Naverette is also a highly regarded player. Has offers from SC, UCLA, Michigan, Washington, ASU, U of A, CU, among others.

Just a couple examples. They're not loaded to the level of the TL teams, Narbonne, Centennial, etc. But they can go. They won't win it, but they are certainly not a "charity admit" into a 7On tourney LOL.
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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Wed May 16, 2018 10:14 pm

Surprised the 'ol Bosco cave troll hasn't emerged to protect Brave Nation's chastity, with all this fresh and reckless innuendo about Bosco destroying Poly's program.

"Show me ONE kid that went to Bosco from the 'Poly District!!'"

"Poly Football and Bosco Football are completely unrelated! Forget participation numbers and proximity!"

"Bosco Football has no connection to Long Beach at all!"

"Obviously all of Poly's players historically come only from the area immediately around the school campus! Well nevermind DeSean Jackson ... I mean the main ones!"

"No way, not possible, no connection, nothing to see here" :lol:

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby RoadRunner » Fri May 18, 2018 1:09 pm

NotDonaldBren wrote:Norco is in the Battle at the Beach because they have as many or more dudes at skill positions than other, more hyped teams in that passing tournament. They put up big offensive numbers in a bunch of games last season, including giving Centennial's defense their biggest regular season punsihment. And, as is custom for every school, they've added some key transfers. Them being in that tourney has nothing to do with Poly being out.

2020 QB Shane Illingworth-a-holdback is rated as one of the top QBs in his class. He's the huge 6'6" kid that split time with Piferi and looked good at Villa Park last season, after sitting out 5 games (after being involved in the Centennial to Corona High transfer dispute fiasco). Already has offers from Louisville, Arkansas, ASU, Arizona, and Colorado, among others.

2020 WR-LB Jaden Naverette is also a highly regarded player. Has offers from SC, UCLA, Michigan, Washington, ASU, U of A, CU, among others.

Just a couple examples. They're not loaded to the level of the TL teams, Narbonne, Centennial, etc. But they can go. They won't win it, but they are certainly not a "charity admit" into a 7On tourney LOL.
Well NDB after watching Norco the last few weeks Illingworth pros: a strong arm and size Cons: lack of leadership & varsity experience, doesn`t know how to read a defense, horrible footwork and winds up to throw. He IMO has not out performed 2 year starter Nick Lahser who has 22 Varsity starts and has thrown for over 5300yds and 56 Tds. Nick has a better command of the offense, has look very strong in spring and has zero interceptions in three passing league games where Shane has thrown 5 ints, looks very shaky and stares down WR... As for Jayden kids has size, speed, explosiveness all which show up on film...but he is lazy, always having an excuse not to practice and a terrible teammate...
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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby FBOC » Sun May 20, 2018 4:35 pm

NotDonaldBren wrote:Norco is in the Battle at the Beach because they have as many or more dudes at skill positions than other, more hyped teams in that passing tournament. They put up big offensive numbers in a bunch of games last season, including giving Centennial's defense their biggest regular season punsihment. And, as is custom for every school, they've added some key transfers. Them being in that tourney has nothing to do with Poly being out.

2020 QB Shane Illingworth-a-holdback is rated as one of the top QBs in his class. He's the huge 6'6" kid that split time with Piferi and looked good at Villa Park last season, after sitting out 5 games (after being involved in the Centennial to Corona High transfer dispute fiasco). Already has offers from Louisville, Arkansas, ASU, Arizona, and Colorado, among others.

2020 WR-LB Jaden Naverette is also a highly regarded player. Has offers from SC, UCLA, Michigan, Washington, ASU, U of A, CU, among others.


Just a couple examples. They're not loaded to the level of the TL teams, Narbonne, Centennial, etc. But they can go. They won't win it, but they are certainly not a "charity admit" into a 7On tourney LOL.


How's Cent10 looking? Are they keeping up with MD and Bosco? I think the TL is taking some players that would usually go there

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby cruiser » Sun May 20, 2018 5:10 pm

What will be interesting is (though this will be 5-6 years down the road) the LA Diocese opened
up St.PiusX HS a couple of years ago, right in Bosco's backyard, St.PiusX had some pretty good FB
teams back in the day before it closed down, will have to see if the school powers want to bring
the FB program up to the level it was or stay low key.

In any case, I'm betting a few good FB players in the Bosco area,end up at PiusX, especially when
they know they have a better chance of more game snaps.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby ColSixPack » Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am

Pius has a loooong way to go to get back to the greatness they had in the 90's. They had a couple of mandingos(LB and DL) on the team this year, but facility wise, it looks like the 70's there right now.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby cruiser » Mon May 21, 2018 11:27 am

Yes, but I think the LA Diocese will be putting money into the school in the near future
otherwise the powers would not have opened it up again, and ya, if in fact, the powers
want to bring it up to the level it was before, you're still looking at least 5/6/7 years down
the road.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby hit the lights » Thu May 24, 2018 5:51 am

RR,
How do you really feel about Illingsworth? Sounds like a cancer to a squad.? Obviously Lasher is the guy, but will the coach ruin that team chemistry, by splitting time? WHO gives your team the BEST chance to WIN?
As for Poly, will they be in D-2? Maybe they should make a splash and tell Illingsworth, he can be the face of the LB POLY program, and bring dudes in. Matt Corral did it. LB Poly will always have access to many athletes.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Sat May 26, 2018 9:26 pm

RoadRunner wrote:Source of the post Illingworth pros: a strong arm and size Cons: lack of leadership & varsity experience, doesn`t know how to read a defense, horrible footwork and winds up to throw.


Interesting RR: with the exception of a handful more games of varsity experience, you could pretty much change the name on that eval to "Uiagalelei" instead of Illingworth and not miss a point.

I've only seen him twice and have to defer to you on IE evals, as you are the Norco/Eastvale/Corona Area Vice President of Player Personnel. But saying that any kid going into the summer before their junior season has "lack of leadership and varsity experience" as weaknesses is reaching a bit, eh? Cmon now. You know that not every QB is starting in 9th grade and calling their own plays by the 10th. Even in the era of holdback-All-Americans.

I agree with you on Lasher; he can go. He's just a good HS QB though, a system guy. Not someone who's going to lead Norco to be a contender, nor a major college prospect. Lasher has turned the ball over 20 times in those 22 starts, and led Norco to back to back 7-5 seasons and 2nd round D2 playoff exits.

Illingworth definitely has a higher ceiling in every category, despite his areas for development. It sounds like you've been at every Norco spring practice and 7On and have a detailed chart of Illingworth's mistakes, but you'd at least agree with that, no??

Should be an interesting QB competition to watch this offseason, right up there with Centennial and JSerra and SM and some others. Glad you spotlighted that one. May the best young man win!

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Sat May 26, 2018 9:34 pm

RoadRunner wrote:Source of the post As for Jayden kids has size, speed, explosiveness all which show up on film...but he is lazy, always having an excuse not to practice and a terrible teammate...


Again, you seem to be a Norco insider, and Jaden Naverette certainly has areas for improvement like any 10th grader. But I have to say I have heard the exact opposite about his character, work ethic, and team spirit. From people who know the kid and his family well. So, I'd wholeheartedly disagree there.

But everyone is entitled to their own opinions of course. I wish him the best in the rest of his career as he develops in all areas; hope to see him go on to success and help his team do so as well.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Sat May 26, 2018 9:48 pm

FBOC wrote:Source of the post How's Cent10 looking? Are they keeping up with MD and Bosco? I think the TL is taking some players that would usually go there


Well lets keep it real, Cen10 has taken almost as many back from the Trinity League. At least in key spots. Their top RB (Sr. Thomas Kinslow) and his twin bro (LB Tyler Kinslow) will be two of their top players; both left Mater Dei for CC after their Fr. year. One of the QBs competing to replace McKee -- Carter Freedland -- just checked in from MD. He looked the best out of the top 3 guys at their spring showcase. Record breaking RB JJ Taylor (Arizona -- CC Class of 2015) checked in from JSerra. I'm probably missing some more.

Huskies also mine as many kids from the IE Ducks and other IE youth franchises as any TL school, and take as many transfers from other IE high schools as any Trinity. If you ask Chad Johnson (new MV coach & former Bosco OC), most of Cen10's team moves into town from elsewhere and lives in the "athlete dorms" (apartments) across the street from campus. He would know: Bosco was probably trying to get those same kids a place in Bellflower or Long Beach.

To answer the initial question though: they should be about as good as always. McKee was the most talented QB they've ever had (size, speed, arm talent, leadership, intelligence combo). But Matt Logan hasn't taken over for Rollo yet, so the Huskies will still be putting 60 on just about everybody's head and winning a ton of games/competing for championships. They always have offensive skill players galore and put together a decent enough defense; even if they're winning some games 60-50. That program grinds in the weight room and practices HARD, has a good coaching staff with a lot of continuity and their offensive system is almost impossible to stop. They'll be in the D1 semis again, against the MD/Bosco regular season runner up.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Sat May 26, 2018 11:09 pm

We should do some posts where everybody can contribute thoughts about teams and their projected rosters going into the summer, especially in light of all the new arrivals this offseason. But here is some info about Cen10 2018 at this point of the offseason, FWIW (feel free to call out any late breaking or unreported roster moves):

QB: Junior Mater Dei transfer Carter Freedland and Soph. Sandy, Utah transfer Colt Fulton (6'4") appeared to be the main contenders at QB coming out of spring, with holdover Ala Makaele trying his best to stay in it. He's the shiftiest of the three, a la the old typical CC QBs, but wasn't shifty enough to avoid getting sent to the hospital by IMG's DLine after entering that game when Tanner McKee was sidelined.

RB: Loaded with the typical super-shifty, super quick, decisive Pop Warner-size RBs that Logan has had for the last 15 years or so. Seniors Thomas Kinslow and Octavio Cortes both return and both torched everyone they played last season for more than 40 combined rushing TDs. Probably have another 10 Barry Sanders-types coming up from JV.

WR: Gary Bryant is one of the best WRs in the California 2020 class and has looked real good at events this offseason. Looks like he put some weight on, which is good, because he was probably 145 lbs. last season and still made Maxpreps Soph. All American team. I believe Sebastian Cuevas returns for his senior year. Rising sophomore (2021) Branden Alvarez is supposed to be for real. Not sure about other kids at this spot for them, but much like RB they always have some wideouts in the pipeline. I also believe at least one DB plays some WR (I. Young?). They'll likely have 4 guys that have at least 500 yds receiving, as usual.

OL: They lost a lot here. Former Riverside Poly transfer Solo Vaipulu (Hawaii signee) graduated, along with other starters like Kevin Brown (6'7" 320) and Billy Lutui. They also lost OG Ryan Siliufau to transfer (JSerra), along with his DL brother Siale. It doesnt really matter though, because Matt Logan's offense purposely splits the line at ridiculous width to compensate for any disadvantages in the trenches, and Cen10 usually is able to fall backwards into a good group of lineman via lower level development or transfers.

DL: Drake Jackson is one of the state's best DL and probably will be committed to USC before the season kicks off. They've also got some other real dudes on this line. Rising senior DL Malik Scurlock (6'2" 225) is one to watch, and according to Keith Miller and Greg Biggins he looks like a grown man/college sophomore. Also catching a lot of hype is rising sophomore 6'4" 220 Korey Foreman, who was offered by USC as a freshman. Coaches expect some young players from the lower levels to contribute on the DL as well.

LB: Trey Laulemaga should return, and he can play - 225 lb MLB. Sivi Nomura returns as a hybrid LB and can also go (offered by Colorado, Iowa St, Hawaii, others). Tyler Kinslow should probably also start here. Lost defensive captain Cam Pitcher to graduation. Last season they generally had an undersized LB crew but made it work up until the playoffs when it fell apart.

DB: Transfer senior S/CB Martin Keeley from Duarte HS joins returning senior Semaje Bonner and rising juniors Isaiah Young and JT Dozier as the top DBs for the Huskies.

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Again, this team will probably score in the 50s at minimum every game, so they'll win a lot. There are always kids who rise up out of nowhere for this program, and they'll get 3-4 under the radar transfers from places like Riverside and Moreno Valley over the next couple of months. And I'm sure we'll see some new stars develop in pre-league. As always for them. Their DL will be one of the best in the Southern Section for sure. And their uniforms will be top 5 in the state regardless of outcomes.

Looks like they got a full 10 games scheduled this year, so that's a good start (only could get 9 in '17). Playing Arizona powerhouse and preseason national top 10 Chandler HS in the opener Aug. 17. Play OLu the following week at OCC, and a loaded Narbonne team that Cen10 beat to death last September, in LA two weeks after that. So the pre-league slate is no slide, as usual for them. But Cen10 aint going nowhere. Book that.

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Re: Coach Barbee at Long Beach Poly

Postby NotDonaldBren » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:45 pm

RoadRunner wrote:Source of the post Well NDB after watching Norco the last few weeks Illingworth pros: a strong arm and size Cons: lack of leadership & varsity experience, doesn`t know how to read a defense, horrible footwork and winds up to throw.


2020 QB Shane Illingworth won QB MVP at the USC Rising Stars camp over the weekend in front of 30+ D1 college staffs (invited by SC). Must have shaped up that footwork, recognition and release a tad bit. The Norco plot thickens.

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