In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

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In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby Hanna » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:10 pm

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If this year’s midterm elections are any clue, the populist surge on which Mr. Trump capitalized two years ago isn’t spreading widely. In fact, when measured by two key indicators of populist and nationalist sentiment—immigration and free trade—it hasn’t spread much at all. For businesses worried that a populist wildfire might, in particular, galvanize broad support for protectionist policies, the picture that has emerged may be something of a relief... Perhaps more surprising, Americans overall actually appear to be growing more likely to see both immigration and free trade as a net plus rather than a net minus for the country.

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And in the parts of the country where Mr. Trump’s tough trade rhetoric and his moves to impose tariffs against some foreign trading partners would seem to have the greatest resonance, the old-line industrial states of the Midwest, election trends actually moved against Mr. Trump and the Republicans. Democrats won governor races, Senate races and a majority of the overall vote for House seats in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, all states Mr. Trump carried just two years ago. There were factors other than trade in the mix, of course. Still, the results suggest there are limits to the political potency of the tough-on-trade message even in the Rust Belt.

Similarly, few candidates in the country embraced Mr. Trump’s tough message on immigration more fervently than did Arizona Senate candidate Martha McSally and Kansas gubernatorial candidate Kris Kobach. Yet both lost their bids for statewide office, Mr. Kobach in a place where Democrats hadn’t won a governor’s race since 2006.

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Overall, though, populist sentiments appear to be bumping up against some powerful counterforces: a growing economy that is spreading benefits more widely than would a struggling economy; significant slices of the country where residents think economic globalization is good and perhaps even necessary for them; and a slice of younger Americans who are more comfortable than their elders with the more diverse face of America produced by immigration.

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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby John Q. Public » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:58 pm

populism
NOUN
1. A political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

2. Support for populist politicians or policies.

3. The quality of appealing to or being aimed at ordinary people.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/populism

Nothing there about immigration, trade, isolationism or nationalism, white or otherwise. Very good word. I wish people would stop bastardizing it.
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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby Hanna » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:59 pm

Oh c'mon! Whiny Donny is a populist because he is promising things that he cannot deliver. Because he is trying to "feel the pain" of many who lost their jobs even though he got all those millions from daddy.

And, yes, immigration and isolation are part of it.

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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:56 pm

Bernie ran as a populist. The term has nothing to do with those other things.
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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby Hanna » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:59 pm

Well, if you want to split hair, go carry a dictionary. For most of their supporters, both Sanders and Trump, populism was about issue that can be summed in one sentence, no thought required.

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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby MDDad » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:06 pm

I think the first definition that JQP posted is most important. Populism is an appeal, often emotional, to those people who are frustrated because they think they are powerless because they have been ignored or forgotten. Both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump did exactly that. The vast difference between them shows how broad and ambiguous the term really is.

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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby John Q. Public » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:52 pm

The whole Progressive philosophy is purely populist.
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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby Fordama » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:26 am

I think those on the right would argue that the progressive movement is elitist, no populist.
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Re: In the Age of Trump, Where Is the Populist Surge? - Gerald Seib

Postby MDDad » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:48 am

As long as we're using a lot of p-words, at its worst, populism is also often outright pandering. It's a politician saying, "Oh, you poor ignored and forgotten people. I feel you, and here's what I'll do for you when I get elected...at least until I get elected." And both sides are equally guilty of that.

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