2019 Sunset D2/D3

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby SK80 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:50 am

Maybe your both correct. ](*,)



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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 am

Omar Bongo wrote:Source of the post My feeling is being rated a pre-season top 4 and finishing one win short (in a 3-season sample) isn't enough reason to declare there's "something wrong"...maybe they're just overrated?


By rated, I mean calpreps regular season year-end...not some writers' or coaches' pre-season poll. That's the primary objective tool used to evaluate team strength.

"it seems something's not right over there" means - they are under-performing in the playoffs the past 3 years since the new division alignment v my expectation of one of the top 4 strongest teams in the division.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Sixth Man » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:05 am

All this and it's only January. Brilliant.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Omar Bongo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:00 pm

Bick wrote:I mean calpreps regular season year-end

You mean the Monday between the last game of the regular season and the start of the playoffs? I'd like to see the numbers you're citing if you could post them.

A quick check shows that this year the final Calpreps rating had them at CA #21 (lost to #16 Upland), last year they ended up CA #44 (lost to #15 Valencia) and in 2016 they finished #49 (lost to #17 Murrieta Valley). Once again, those were the final rankings.
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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:11 pm

I don't have access to what the ratings were after week 10 - just these year end ratings

2018 - yr end

1. Upland 56.6
2. Calabasas 56.4
3. Rancho Verde 55
4. Norco 54

2017 - yr end

1. Oaks C 62
2. Valencia 59.9
3. Upland 59.6
4. Heritage 51.2
5. Norco 45.2

2016 - yr end

1. San Clemente 63.6
2. Murr Val 57.3
3. Valencia 56.7
4. Heritage 49.1
5. Norco 46.9

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Omar Bongo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:28 pm

Looking at those numbers, I wouldn't say that them not making the semis is a big shocker...what gives you the idea there's "something wrong over there"?
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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:37 pm

I think they're under-performing in the playoffs given their relative strength. I'd probably say the same if MD didn't make the finals the past 3 years considering their talent level.

Would you?

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Omar Bongo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:03 pm

So you question the coaching?

I would hardly compare their talent level to MD's. Maybe part of the "problem" is that the current IE talent pool is distributed a much more democratically (small d) now than it was in Toby Gebhart's day...

Looking at the numbers you posted it looks to me like they're performing right to expectations --:--
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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:04 pm

We'll agree to disagree then. For the relative strength in D2, obviously not comparing Norco talent to MD, Bosco, or Cen10, I think they're coming up short in the playoffs relative to their actual season long calpreps rating strength within Division 2. I'm guessing RR will weigh in on this at some point if he reads it.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby SMCHSDominance » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:33 am

Did Fountain Valley new hire start already or does he wait until semester?

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby TomDrake » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:02 pm

If I'm not mistaken, FV has 3 former head football coaches (2 from FV, 1 from Costa Mesa) teaching on their campus right now. They may want to try to recruit one of those guys (I'm not sure if any of them would be interested).

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Sixth Man » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:59 pm

Eric Johnson and who else?

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby SMCHSDominance » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:04 pm

The coach from Costa Mesa would be the smart hire. I hear it's between him and former Edison Line Coach.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby TomDrake » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:11 pm

Sixth Man wrote:Eric Johnson and who else?

Isn’t Shipp still teaching there?

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:53 pm

He's not on the current school teacher roster on the website.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Bick » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:25 pm

Chris Anderson new HC @ FV. OL coach @ CDM last year. What's the scoop on this SK80?

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Newps » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:46 pm

Anderson only coached at Cdm 1 year. Previous 7 years he coached at Newport. He applied for the NH head job and didn’t get it so he jumped on staff last year at Cdm. Not a big deal and very replaceable.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby SK80 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:28 am

Bick wrote:Chris Anderson new HC @ FV. OL coach @ CDM last year. What's the scoop on this SK80?


The scoop is Sunset League poaches...! Bwahahhaaa! ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Newps summed it up and I have nothing much to add. Outside I was never keen on the TAR connection always wondering if there was collusion w/ Harbor.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looking forward, good luck to him if it was a HC job and thats what he is directing his life towards congrats. Not thrilled he has a CDM "Playbook" in a PDF file floating around the FV campus! :roll:

Not sure about FV player personel for next season yet ta'll might consider taking the points in Bick's pool when CDM hosts FV as Anderson may have inside knowledge on how to stop John Humphrys.... :-k

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby Sixth Man » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:10 am

Having an opposing teams playbook means almost nothing in football. By the time league rolls around the opposing team has seen most of what you do anyhow. Now if you knew their calls or snap count or signs, that might be helpful. It's tough to stop Humphries, even if you know it's coming.

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Re: 2019 Sunset D2/D3

Postby SK80 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:35 am

Ya rumor is Edison already hacked CDM Athletics servers attaining their own copy.....,

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