Evaluating (Mythical) National Title Contenders

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 pm

RedPillWonderland wrote: Duncanville on film and on the roster looks like some GROWN MEN.
This is Duncanville LB Kendrick Blackshire, 6-2 250 and a “high school junior”
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lol i thought the Trinity Lg had all the holdbacks??

No wonder that kid has 27 offers. Nick Saban was probably shocked to find out that Kendrick wasnt already on the team at Alabama.

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Post by jb914 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:58 pm

Northshore was exposed by Katy in week 1.

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Post by Playthegame » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:10 pm

Bosco, MD, JS are all games no team would take lightly and that is saying a lot in this crowd...as a Cali guy, I want all Cali teams to win every game they play, 1-2 especially and they are playing good mix and many teams are getting some common opponent stats to measure/compare to, so big week, good luck to all OOS reps!

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:23 am

based on last nights MD vs. St. Frances game, its without question, MD is the odds-on favorite again, unfortuneately, hopefully some team ends their new dynasty soon, really thought it was gonna be a closer game.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:53 am

St Johns (DC) limping into this Friday’s matchup with the best HS team in the nation ...





Duncanville looking like the best team in Texas right now. Knocked off undefeated Allen last season in the playoffs, and should be defending state champs if not for a fluke Hail Mary toss by North Shore.

If they go undefeated and win Texas 6A-1, they will be heavy in the mix for #1 should MD fall.
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Post by RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:07 am

Hmmm, maybe MD and ESPN can redirect their flights to Texas this week?




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Post by jb914 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:48 am

Would be a great game, but, I believe Texas version of CIF prohibits schools from being out of state for more than 24 hr? so, any game has to be played in Texas.

2020 MD vs Duncanville at Jerry World :rockon:

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:41 pm

Mater Dei Football is now the unanimous #1 ranked HSFB team in the United States of America:

MaxPreps (MaxPreps’ human and computer polls now have MD #1):



HSFB America:



USA Today woke up from their coma:



National Prep Poll (Prep Nation):



Prep Force (MD overtakes Bosco as #1 here):



Bosco is #2 in every poll except ... USA Today. They love them some St Thomas Aquinas!

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:54 pm

I believe Bishop Gorman had a 3-peat, 2014, 2015, 2016, won't shock me at all if MD does that this season, that's gonna be difficult to watch or know, and tons of other HS football fans as well, if that happens, that would make MD the only other Cali HS football program to do that other than DLS.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:49 pm

Monarchs still NUMBA 1 in EVERY poll:



A lot still to be sorted out in the next two months, starting with some major matchups in the next two weeks:

#3 IMG v #5 St Frances, next Friday Oct 18 in Baltimore

Then a little Trinity League matchup on October 25 ...

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:54 pm

Assuming Mater Dei doesn’t MARCH its way undefeated to a 3rd consecutive trophy on December 14, and we don’t crown another unanimous and unquestionable champion, a la 2017, the national title race is actually in a very interesting spot right now. And that even includes scenarios where Bosco goes undefeated (which would not guarantee them the title, given their questionable non league schedule — outside of DeMatha).

Within the top 25, there are essentially pods of teams across the country that are lined up to potentially have to battle each other by the end of the season in their respective states, to get to a state title (or the equivalent). Whoever comes out on top in these states will certainly be in the mix for the #1 spot if MD falls.

Florida:

Consensus National #6 (And USA Today #2) St Thomas Aquinas seems destined to matchup again with #13 Lakeland in the 7A state playoffs. Lakeland beat Aquinas in the state title game last season.

Texas:

Consensus #4 Duncanville leads 4 national top 25 teams all in the same playoff bracket Texas 6A-D1: #7 Katy, # 16 North Shore (defending Maxpreps national champ), and #18 Allen, which went into the Texas playoffs last season at #2 in the nation before being upset by Duncanville. These 4 seem to meet in the UIL playoffs in some combo every year, and whoever rises from the fire this year may again claim a share of the national title depending on Mater Dei and Bosco’s (and IMG’s) finish.

Georgia:

#12 Valdosta Lowndes, #19 Marietta and #24 Powder Springs McEachern are all in Georgia’s Class 7A, with Marietta and McEachern in the same Atlanta area Region. Lowndes is in the same South GA region as annual state and national power Colquitt County. Those 4 teams will inevitably have to go through each other to win the Georgia state title, and if one of them remains undefeated or has one loss, they could be one of the last 4-5 standing for the national title.

Milton (TL Classic participant) shockingly beat out all of these teams to win GA 7A last season.

Some top 15 teams should cruise to undefeated seasons in weaker states, and may sneak into the final discussion nonetheless:

#10 Mentor (OH) will have to battle through the always tough Ohio D1 bracket against local Cleveland rival powers like St Ignatius and St Edward, and the Cincinnati powers like St Xavier, Elder and Colerain. Ohio seems like a 1 team state this year though and it will be surprising if Mentor (Mitch Trubisky’s alma Mater) doesn’t cruise to the state title.

#8 Honolulu St Louis should win its 4th straight Hawaii state title with little resistance. Traditional Oahu competitors like Punahou, Mililani and Kahuku are no match for Marcus Mariota and Tua Tagavailoa’s Crusaders this year.

#14 John Curtis (Joe McKnight) should skate through the Louisiana playoffs to another title.

Other major head to head matchups coming:

#15 DeMatha at #11 Gonzaga on Oct 19 in the DC Catholic League (WCAC). Gonzaga is in the top 9 of 3 polls, is #7 in the HSFB America poll, and has looked very good against good competition this season. If the Eagles can sweep the WCAC gauntlet with St Johns and Good Counsel included, they would have a solid resume.

The aforementioned Oct 18 matchup in Baltimore between #3 IMG and #5 St Frances Academy carries much bigger stakes for IMG’s hopes, and the Ascenders will later play their annual game at Alabama state power Hoover to finish the season a couple of weeks later.

And of course the California group will go head up, with the leaders in the clubhouse #1 MD and #2 SJB playing twice, and one of them destined for a 4th straight state title matchup with #9 De La Salle in Cerritos.

A lot of consequential games yet to be played and some very interesting state playoff brackets.

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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:48 pm

won't shock me at all if MD has a 3-peat, if it happens, it will make MD the second CA HS team to have a 3-peat in National titles, only other CA HS that has done that, is DLS. Thats gonna be difficult to watch.

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Post by OutOfState » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:06 pm

I think if Bosco goes undefeated they easily get #1 because that means beating MD twice plus DLS.
The interesting thing will be if MD or Bosco split their 2 games and the winner of the final goes on to beat DLS. If IMG, Duncanville, or STA goes undefeated then there is a good chance one of them gets crowned ‘mythical’ national champion instead of Bosco or MD with one loss.

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Post by RedPillWonderland » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:13 pm

Love the argument; exactly the type of content I like to see ... in this thread lol.

Here is why I disagree that it would be so easy for Bosco to claim #1, especially unanimously, even if they went undefeated and swept Mater Dei (which would then finish as a much less impressive 2-loss team, assuming they lost to no one but Bosco) and beat a top 10 DLS (which would then also finish as a much less impressive 2-loss team):

1) Their non league schedule was/is not impressive. We’ll see how DeMatha finishes in their very tough league, but outside of them, SJB played a bunch of OOS teams that have known names but either aren’t very good this year, or are at best mediocre. If they beat MD twice and DLS, those will be by far the 3 most impressive wins they have.

2) There will be at least 4-5 teams from around the country (you mentioned 3 of them) that the polls will likely view as having resumes arguably just as good or better than even an undefeated Braves team (and it would be hard to strongly disagree). That includes whoever wins the state titles in Florida (especially if it’s a 15-0 STA) and Georgia, and definitely will include whoever comes out on top of the gauntlet in Texas 6A-D1, especially if it’s a 16-0 Duncanville. That’s not to mention IMG if they win out. If I had a vote in that situation, I’d likely PERSONALLY still put it on a 14-0 state champion SJB. But we have to consider how they’ll be viewed nationally, by folks who don’t always understand or respect the difficulty of the the Trinity Lg or CIFSS D1.

3) To this point, they aren’t anywhere near as dominant as last years Bosco team, nor viewed that way nationally. Not to mention less talented than last years team, which matters to the folks who do these rankings, like it or not. Bosco’s perception COULD change if they unexpectedly wipe the floor with MD/DLS and everyone else the rest of the way. But as it stands now, they couldn’t simply win all their games and have everyone recognize them as the obvious choice at #1, like they could have last year, when they fumbled away an undisputed national title and a place among the great teams in history with the loss in the CIF game.

If MD wins out, there’s obviously no question who should be #1 in every poll. Although they certainly would win multiple polls, I don’t think it would be the same with Bosco.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:22 pm

RedPillWonderland wrote:...#1 MD and #2 SJB playing twice
It ain't necessarily so...
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Post by WantTheNFLBack714 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:03 pm

yup, that 2018 title game loss for Bosco is no doubt gonna sting them for a while, but really, you think this years MD team is not as talented as last years MD team? I thought MD was returning more starters

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Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:43 pm

RedPillWonderland wrote:There will be at least 4-5 teams from around the country (you mentioned 3 of them) that the polls will likely view as having resumes arguably just as good or better than even an undefeated Braves team (and it would be hard to strongly disagree).
Wouldn't be hard for me (so far). After MD and possibly SJB there's a substantial dropoff to the next tier. We'll know more after Oct. 18 when IMG plays St Frances and MD & Bosco hookup the next weekend...
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Post by RedPillWonderland » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:06 pm

We’re not talking about “so far.“ Obviously every reference in that post is looking forward and comparing resumes (hypothetically) if Bosco and (at least) 4-5 other teams mentioned all go undefeated.

In that scenario, considering some of the wins the other state champions would have (detailed above), there wouldn’t be such a substantial drop off between Bosco’s resume and the others, at all.

That’s what makes this such an interesting point in the season and national title race; so much more yet to be played out, and the season “so far” won’t mean much once the next two months of ball are complete and we see the full picture.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:24 pm

Who's "we"? You mean you?

So far to me it looks like MD and maybe SJB, depending on whether last week was just a hiccup. If SFA beats IMG or comes damn close then the MD-SJB game is for all the marbles...to me.
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Post by RedPillWonderland » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:52 pm

Lol you need to go to sleep Omar.

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