2020 Football Schedules

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Post by BoscoBrave » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:21 pm

Absolutely it does. BOSCO started winning the battle over the kids that would have normally gone to LB Poly, and the Moore League stopped their open enrollment policy which eliminated Long Beach kids from going to whatever school they wanted to in the district.

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Post by credofriar » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:34 pm

Daforno wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:38 pm
Just asking as it is a very curious coincidence that Bosco has gone from a doormat in the trinity League to an elite National High School program, while basically ( right down 5 miles Bellflower Blvd ) sits Poly an average D1 program, just asking?
Very little, coaching in HS matters.
Negro won within 2-3 years of being there. Mendoza was NOT a good coach. Bosco has been a goldmine in waiting for a long time. Kiki held that program back for years.
Poly if they still had Raul Lara would be competing for championships.
When Lara was their they both were still good. In 2012 they had an epic battle in the semi's. Poly won the game and won CIF. They then hired Antonio Pierce who was there 2 days a week since he worked for ESPN in Bristol. They then hired this goofy looking white dude who has no respect from his players or coaches. Lost the entire defensive staff and OC from last year. Nobody wants to be there anymore. If Raul Lara was still there...… its a different deal.

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Post by bodhi » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:33 am

Bosco always had talent as soon as the 105 opened up. Kiki had multiple kids go to D1 including QB's Cowan and Price. Kiki last year had 6 players go D1 and 2 in the NFL or CFl and went 3-7 and lost to Mater Dei by 50. Ask Rollinson and any other Trinity League coaches, when Kiki was fired they were all upset and worried about Bosco becoming what they are now.

Bosco isn't LB Poly kids, Poly just isn't getting kids who live outside the district like they use to. Why would you go to Poly? To play for Barbie? The guy wasn't asked back at the school he came from in OC and this is the guy you think would bring Poly back? Poly will be irrelevant until they get a good coach in there and change the culture.

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Post by Bigbear » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:31 pm

bodhi wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:33 am
Bosco always had talent as soon as the 105 opened up. Kiki had multiple kids go to D1 including QB's Cowan and Price. Kiki last year had 6 players go D1 and 2 in the NFL or CFl and went 3-7 and lost to Mater Dei by 50. Ask Rollinson and any other Trinity League coaches, when Kiki was fired they were all upset and worried about Bosco becoming what they are now.
I’ve always thought the same thing about Bosco, going back to the inception of the Serra league (now Trinity). They always seemed to have tremendous talent and were big in the trenches, but greatly underperformed year after year. There was definitely something noticeable in 2010 when Negro took the helm.

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Re: 2020 Football Schedules

Post by HonorGloryLove » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:56 am

Re: Daforno's musing about Bosco and Poly, I have wondered about this myself many times, and I certainly don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I believe the quality of the programs, and not just the athletic ability, is what makes top teams great.

Sure, athleticism plays a big part, but motivation and great preparation (including the hard work of having back ups ready) are the fundamentals. A lot of work and time are necessary to produce that kind of performance. But it's not the work and time put in that make these coaches and programs great in my eyes—please see the end of this post for that.

One thing athleticism, particularly speed, can do is to reduce the penalty a team pays for mistakes, like being out of position, missing tackles, etc., but this doesn't help so much when playing a top quality team that is also fast, and plays better football. I think this often accounts for a seemingly invincible nationally ranked team losing a big game.

Because I follow MD, I immediately think of the IMG game a couple years ago. I sat on the IMG side and those IMG fans were stunned. What would seem impossible on paper was happening right before their eyes. I am sure Bosco, DLS and Servite have also played games like this.

Programs like Bosco, MD and Servite (just wait, they'll be right up there again-TT's a great coach) require a lot of work for players too, and a lot of time. At any of these schools, it's a wonder these kids can study during football season, but they make it happen. I'll say this: having 4 years of that kind of stress will surely make college easier because the kid's used to managing his time and pushing himself when he's dog tired.

It's a burden not every kid will accept, and it mirrors the burden these coaches accept.

Mind you, I'm not disparaging any kid or coach who does not want to carry that load. It's something the individual must want badly enough to suffer the pain. There are other things in life that are also important, and any individual who places balance ahead of a singular goal deserves our admiration too.

We Americans are terribly competitive, and sometimes we lose perspective because of that. I marvel at how the coaches I mentioned, and I will certainly put Bob Ladouceur in the group, always seem to, despite their competitive nature, maintain awareness of what's really important.

I watch these men when they meet on the field after a game. There's lots of love for each other with smiles all around. I am often deeply moved when I see them together, as I consider how rare that attitude is. I want to be like them, and I thank all of them for their inspiration.

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Post by watchersince68 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:49 am

Honorglorylove
I could have said it better myself.

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Post by hocyouthguy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:20 am

Hear, hear! All true, and the naysayers know what they can do with it!
HonorGloryLove wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:56 am
Re: Daforno's musing about Bosco and Poly, I have wondered about this myself many times, and I certainly don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but I believe the quality of the programs, and not just the athletic ability, is what makes top teams great.

Sure, athleticism plays a big part, but motivation and great preparation (including the hard work of having back ups ready) are the fundamentals. A lot of work and time are necessary to produce that kind of performance. But it's not the work and time put in that make these coaches and programs great in my eyes—please see the end of this post for that.

One thing athleticism, particularly speed, can do is to reduce the penalty a team pays for mistakes, like being out of position, missing tackles, etc., but this doesn't help so much when playing a top quality team that is also fast, and plays better football. I think this often accounts for a seemingly invincible nationally ranked team losing a big game.

Because I follow MD, I immediately think of the IMG game a couple years ago. I sat on the IMG side and those IMG fans were stunned. What would seem impossible on paper was happening right before their eyes. I am sure Bosco, DLS and Servite have also played games like this.

Programs like Bosco, MD and Servite (just wait, they'll be right up there again-TT's a great coach) require a lot of work for players too, and a lot of time. At any of these schools, it's a wonder these kids can study during football season, but they make it happen. I'll say this: having 4 years of that kind of stress will surely make college easier because the kid's used to managing his time and pushing himself when he's dog tired.

It's a burden not every kid will accept, and it mirrors the burden these coaches accept.

Mind you, I'm not disparaging any kid or coach who does not want to carry that load. It's something the individual must want badly enough to suffer the pain. There are other things in life that are also important, and any individual who places balance ahead of a singular goal deserves our admiration too.

We Americans are terribly competitive, and sometimes we lose perspective because of that. I marvel at how the coaches I mentioned, and I will certainly put Bob Ladouceur in the group, always seem to, despite their competitive nature, maintain awareness of what's really important.

I watch these men when they meet on the field after a game. There's lots of love for each other with smiles all around. I am often deeply moved when I see them together, as I consider how rare that attitude is. I want to be like them, and I thank all of them for their inspiration.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:29 pm

Just in case anybody's interested:

Concord De La Salle's 2020 schedule:

Aug. 29: at North Shore (Houston)
Sept. 4: vs. Elk Grove
Sept. 11: at Saint Francis (Mountain View)
Sept. 18: vs. Cathedral Catholic (San Diego)
Sept. 25: vs. St. Mary's (Stockton)
Oct. 9: vs. Folsom
Oct. 16: at California (San Ramon)
Oct. 23: vs. San Ramon Valley (Danville)
Oct. 30: vs. Amador Valley (Pleasanton)
Nov. 6: at Clayton Valley Charter (Concord)
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Post by watchersince68 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:44 am

Thanks but I will go on record for being not interested. Now playoff time than I'm interested.

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Post by Omar Bongo » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:36 pm

You're welcome...admittedly scraping for HSFB news in this dead period...the game @ North Shore (TX #1/Nat'l #4) is an interesting matchup IMO
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