The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Wed May 13, 2020 1:42 pm

Please show where anyone tried to smear him and where anyone showed support for the yahoos.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Vilepagan » Thu May 14, 2020 3:21 am

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Not really. I am not black. But it has been obvious there is a double standard for white people vs black people when it comes to these types of incidents.

Or doing other things like brandishing firearms.
Like I said, speculation about...well, not this case anyway.
Take a look at earlier posts. Pay attention to those now trying smear Arbery him by claiming he was not just jogging.
I don't think he was just jogging. I'm not trying to smear anyone but I think that's the truth. I think your characterization of this as a "smear" is just silly.
I do not care if Arbery had a stack of C-Notes and pockets full of diamond necklaces.

He did not deserve to be executed by these wannabes.
I agree with the sentiment but not your words. Your words are too emotional.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Wabash » Thu May 14, 2020 5:42 am

There is a case right now in KY. The police mistakenly entered the home of a black woman and killed while she was in bed.

My words are not emotional enough.

It is very recent. What are the odds that any of those who actually killed her are held accountable for manslaughter?

I am betting none.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Fordama » Thu May 14, 2020 9:08 am

She was sleeping in a suspiciously Black fashion.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Thu May 14, 2020 11:01 am

The homeowner says nothing was missing, BTW.

I'm not sure what bothers me more about this case (the one the topic is about) - the racism or the vigilantism. Racism is more evil but vigilantism is a bigger threat to our semi-civilized society.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Vilepagan » Thu May 14, 2020 12:37 pm

Wabash wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 5:42 am
There is a case right now in KY. The police mistakenly entered the home of a black woman and killed while she was in bed.
Seriously dude, stop talking about stories if you're going to get the facts wrong.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bl ... e-n1205651
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Post by John Q. Public » Thu May 14, 2020 2:55 pm

And while you're at it, please stop talking about cases that have nothing to do with the topic.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Omar Bongo » Thu May 14, 2020 3:23 pm

John Q. Public wrote:Racism is more evil but vigilantism is a bigger threat to our semi-civilized society.
A debatable assertion to be sure
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Fri May 15, 2020 1:06 am

lol. The good ol' boys attorneys urge people not to "rush to judgement."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ahmaud-arb ... attorneys/
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Wabash » Thu May 21, 2020 4:02 pm

The person who filmed the whole thing just got arrested.

I am interested in knowing what charges he will be facing.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Thu May 21, 2020 5:07 pm

Murder and attempt to commit false imprisonment. So it sounds like he was with the other two, maybe?

Sounds like the GBI is going to say they didn't have grounds to make a citizens arrest if they're saying false imprisonment.
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Post by Wabash » Fri May 22, 2020 6:17 am

CBS News is reporting that he is being charged with felony murder.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Fri May 22, 2020 7:01 am

As opposed to misdemeanor murder. :eh?:
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Wabash » Fri May 22, 2020 8:06 am

I was quoting directly from the GBI.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by John Q. Public » Sat May 23, 2020 7:46 am

An article in the NY Times says Bryan's involvement was that he "contributed to his death by attempting to 'confine and detain' Mr. Arbery with his vehicle." So he saw what was going on and stopped his car in a way to block Arbery. I don't see the crime in that unless he knew what the McMichaels' intentions were. It's a pretty ordinary thing for a concerned citizen to do.

But I think that came from his lawyer and we don't know what Bryan said to the GBI. He might have been involved or he might be a perfectly innocent citizen who said something to the investigators that he didn't realize was incriminating. It happens. It's why they tell you not to talk until your lawyer gets there.
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Re: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery

Post by Wabash » Sat May 23, 2020 8:24 am

One of my former neighbors was a Fed. He told me that if you are taken into custody do not ever give up your rights. Have a lawyer present even if you are being interrogated for a traffic ticket.

And if you are in a law enforcement facility there is ZERO expectation of privacy. Assume your conversations if you are alone with your counsel are being monitored.

And only answer the question that is asked.

For Example.

Q: "Do you know what time it is?"
A: "Yes."

Do not offer what the time is, just that you know what time it is.
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